SEERISH BACKSTORY...AFTER BEING RAISED in a Southern Baptist Sr Pastor’s home, being a Jesus Person in college , called by the Lord age24 “to Study his many diverse Bible Believing Ministry ongoing groups, which she still now does…AND after starting her public ministry in 1987….as the USA Holy Spirit real moves began, beginning  IN 1991, at the leading of the Lord,Dr Taveau began to immerse herself in the BIBLE STUDY, PARTICIPATION and Noble Berean repeated EVALUATION of the RELATIONSHIPS, INTERACTIONS AND BIBLE TEACHING, FAITH FILLED FRUITS OF THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE BELIEVING USA prophetic charismatic MULTI US STATE AND COLORS,STYLES OF HOLY SPIRIT LOVING MANY GROUPS.

ALL OF THE FOLLOWING, PLUS MUCH MORE..is what led to the posting below

SETTLE BACK ..GRAB SOME JAVA…AS THIS IS EXTRA LONG. VIDEO AND MAJOR ARTICLE FOLLOWS

TO LEADERS..Pastors, rising ministry leaders, I do answer QUESTIONS, hold, guest minister at CONFERENCES, and DO DOCTRINAL DISCUSSIONS ,even “By God’s Divine Leader Appointment give WISE SEASONED ADVICE ” Plus will evaluate any MENTORING Applications. CONTACT: dfwleader@gmail.com

WE WANT TO MINIMIZE “SPOOKY” “ELITE” “CELEBRITY” “STANDOFFISH’ AND “CLUBBY” “ONLY FOR THE GIFTED TOP WORLD WIDE FAMOUS …FEW” ..”SEERISHLY SKILLED , RAZOR SHARP ACCURATE  SPIRITUAL PROWESS…YET… IS  FAR TOO  SELF IMPORTANT, FAR TOO “SELF “SERIOUS…AND IS HARD, COLD, AND LACKS ALL REAL LOVE…+ USE OF IRON CLAD “BACK UNDER THE LAW”.AS WELL AS CONTINUALLY PRESENTING ONESELF AS “.NOT BEING HUMAN ONLY “BIG SEERISH GIFTED” NOTE: FOR ALL OF THIS SHOULD be about SHOWING OFF GOD’S DIVERSE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY (Apostolic, It’s The End Times Revelation 3:13-17 Philadelphian Love Walk Fellowships..AND AREA Ephesians 4..not YOU, ME WE, THEM, US

FOR THE SAKE OF THE CHRISTIANS WHO NEED

TO NEED SPECIFIC “THIS IS NOT  NEW AGE”

CLARITY:

 

Q. VALID QUESTION…Just HOW does the

“SPIRIT OF TRUTH” actually come?

A. When a person asks Jesus Christ into their heart as PERSONAL SAVIOR and LORD…right after that happens HE gives a free deposit of HIS HOLY SPIRIT (The SPIRIT OF TRUTH) which the newly saved person now must LEARN about (Bible study, prayer, asking questions, getting Bible teaching , fellowshipping with the like minded equipping saints.’

WHEN a person invites Jesus Christ into their heart,they are “born again” “saved” and then able to start to learn about knowing HIM in a “relationship” and this is how I ministry leader EQUIP.

NEXT…HOW TO KEEP IT “SPIRIT OF TRUTH” AND AVOID SPIRITUAL ERROR

ALL Truly SAVE, SANE, NOT PRONE TO GOING INTO FULL FLEDGED SPIRITUAL ERROR will be far morse safe guarded by realizing that ALL “inner” “spiritual sensing” “perceptive discernment” must be based on “this FIrst Love, ongoing, Abiding in the One True Living Vine ministering UNTO the Loving LORD…inside type of “directing, leading, and back and forth “inner communicating” “RELATIONSHIP”

WHICH ALSO must have ongoing full deep Holy Bible Teaching, Ministry Training and God Chosen Spiritual Mentoring**. (**This latter…as not everyone knows a qualified TRUE  mentoring authority…SO this MENTORING aspect will be WHEN, IF  one can LOCATE “the right FIT” and as the God Yolked person feels so directed)

ALSO…IF A CHRIST ACCEPTING, ONGOING REAL RELATIONSHIP IS  OMITTED… NOT EVER MENTIONED… BY THE EQUIPPING MINISTRY AUTHORITY..this ought to be a RED FLAG.

The Eternal Realm of “inner perceiving, discerning” Holy Spirit communication is an enormous hot topic. I plan to share a lot of archives, to assure the reader that we know this ‘subjective” Bible, ik”seerish” but not over into the new age, psychic, spying spooky and inordinate turf. YET we’ve found that some of the well known Famous Seer Believers may not also understand, So hence this attempt to PROPHETIC EDUCATE

http://www.purepropheticprinciples.com ( which currently is the most highly subscribed to Dr TCL prophetic site)

THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND IT’S HOLY SPIRIT REVEALED ORDER…SERIES is now unfolding http://www.dfwleaderministryfellowship.com

NOTE: all of this (seer, prophet, perceiver-discerner) ASSISTS in “entering God’s Holy Spirit Kingdom, and it a a major ongoing part of “discerning GOD’S HOLY SPIRIT inner perceived REVELATION for direction, clarity and guidance, decision making and protection.”

SO ALL OF THIS is wisely based upon and with a PERSONAL SALVATION First Love RELATIONSHIP with the the Savior JESUS CHRIST. (more later on)

ALSO MY REAL GOAL..We  want many different NON  praying in tongues PERSONS to inquire, to safely learn about assessing, and freely enjoying the non controlling, non dominating and NOT ONE BIT SPOOKY or ERRANT “apostolic (work birthing, Alive, “there”..) Father God’s Holy Spirit”

 

Apostle T walks in the beneath prophetic seer office, so is very acquainted with the turf…but also with the many historical prophetic groups who all view things a bit differently . This is to make this HOT TOPIC natural, common place, “Despooky-fied” and  “User Friendly..minus using anybody.” (thats our NON ELITE servant leader continuing catch phrase http://www.purepropheticprinciples.com (which is currently the most subscribed to TCL ministry website

“None of us, my lord the king,” said one of his officers, “but Elisha, the

prophet who is in Israel, tells the king of Israel the very words you speak in

your bedroom.” 2 KINGS 6:12

RIGHT HERE, in TCL,DFW LEADER Apostolic TURF.. we often put in the words..”Perceiver- Discerner” which actually may be the same basic type of REAL THING as the  Red Flag Buzz Word of the PROPHET…

WORD OF FAITH: Your founder Dr Kenneth E Hagin Sr described the same thing as “the SPIRIT OF SEEING AND KNOWING “which is on a You Tube Video i found a few years back.

ELIJAH ..PERCEIVER  “HOLY SPIRIT INNER HEARING” THE KING

CONTEXT: 2 KINGS 6 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Kings+6

 

 

 

THE ABOVE….PROPHETIC SYMBOL OF THE SOUL (Soul =’s Mind, Will, Emotions…..Your, Our Seat of pure heart, conscience, wisdom, revelation, ideas, imagination, and an awful lot MORE!)

ABOVE: Akin to our Mortal Soul Realm…”our inner (very subjective) knower”…as in The Symbol of the (I Kings 19:9) Prophetic Cave”(BE YE CHRISTIAN…our human inner Psalm 91 Secret Place of perceiver, sensing, hearing, discernment, receiving, perceiving plus EVALUATION) Taveau D’Arcy Creative Leadership

ASSESS….now….CLOSE YOUR EYES. Thus “THERE IT IS!”

THIS IS TAKEN FROM OUR (continually growing) Taveau Creative Leadership Official Lexicon

http://www.taveaudarcylexicon.wordpress.com

 

DO YOU PERCEIVE THE CAVE?

Our use of the term The Prophetic Cave**

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**I Kings 19:9, “And he (Elijah) came into a cave and lodged there; and, behold the word of the Lord came to him, ‘What are you doing here, Elijah?”

EXPLANATION OF THE TCL, DFW LOF IN HOUSE USE OF THE TERM

“The Prophetic Cave” AND our (REVISED UPCOMING) media name: “The Father’s Words from the Prophetic Cave.”

People are searching for what is TRUE. The Father’s Words from the Prophetic Cave helps seekers discern “ Out of all the many voices in the world, all of them claiming to be “God’s”….. WHICH VOICE should I really pay attention to? Which “Christian leader” is one worthy of being followed? In the media driven famous Christian celebrity /worship culture, WHO is “Real” and WHO is “False?” WHO is the REAL Spiritual Authority set in place and what is actually “the new traditions of man which make the Scriptures null and void?”

 

Dr. Taveau D’Arcy, along with a growing number of mature Christ followers, sometimes resort to “fleeing into their prophetic caves” from all that goes on under the name of “Being a Christ Follower” or “Christian ministry leader.” Since accepting Jesus as her Savior in 1968, God has allowed Taveau the privilege of being sent to surf the many chief apostolic Bible teaching and worship streams which have a great effect on the lay persons.

 

She has studied the many leadership forms, pastoring styles, spiritual authority and other key doctrines that are being used in many local churches. Her goal is to build bridges of understanding and unity between the races, the generations, and denominations. While she truly identifies with the many frustrations of the up and coming New Generation, Taveau also seeks what is good from the ones that have paved our way, and honors the founding spiritual fathers and mothers of historic Bible based pure moves of God.

 

In the Father’s Words from the Prophetic Cave media, Dr. Taveau D’Arcy opens what has become the religious leadership box, and begins to raise questions. Such as: When is it better to take a practice God’s enduring tough love, while taking a committed stand against PC (Politically Correct) modern culture….and when is it better to flee to one’s prophetic cave, rather than become immersed in some parts of the Big Business Church Organizational System?

 

The Father’s Words from the Prophetic Cave ponders the effect of media on the local pastor, non going Christians and those who never been to a church.

 

The media and hype, add to the rise in celebrity Christian culture, has spawned much confusion about who and what the Organic Church of the Lord Jesus Christ is. This has created a falling away and a coldness in parts of what can only be described as the Laodicean modern “church.”

The prophet Elijah, is a prototype for many in servant, confrontational, bold leadership. The Father’s Words from the Prophetic Cave takes a countercultural nontraditional view of what it means to truly follow Christ, encounter dominating, controlling personalities in the church system as well as in the non-Christian world. Too many times a top leader must FLEE from dealing with the many controlling religious spirits and dominating doctrines of the traditions of humans.

 

The use of “prophetic cave” is akin to going into the Psalm 91 Secret Place of the Most High God, or King David fleeing for his life into the OT Cave of Adullam.

 

Whether the “cave” is a literal cave, or one’s office door, is not the main point. The real use of the often humorous, off beat “prophetic cave” as teaching point, is to use that as an allegory to the human leadership basic need to truly become isolated for periods of quiet reflection, in order to really hear personally from the Living God.

 

In today’s media driven, internet worship culture, many different voices assault, accuse, beckon or confuse. So, The Father’s Words from the Prophetic Cave brings up thought provoking podcasts and teaching to stir up the thinking and sharpen the discernment of todays modern leadership and future leadership Generation.

 

The Father’s Words from the Prophetic Cave highly creative, persuasive,(not authoritarian), anti church world system, nontraditional, Christ following yet NON religious view point, strongly identifies with todays’ creative post modern culture and uses much worship, fine arts, in it’s creative cave viewpoints.

 

And today’s internet self absorbed Me Generation, both in side and outside of the Christ following people groups, are very interested in both the supernatural. So the Father’s Words from the Prophetic Cave discusses and increases discernment for Christ followers in out of ministry, but also enjoys and assists those who do not yet know the Lord and need to clear up unanswered questions.

 

Such as ? What is the difference between the occult, the psychic and moving in the Biblical gifts of the Spirit including discussions of the spirit of prophecy?” and “What is and is not a true or false apostle, pastor or doctrine?” and “How can I tell if it’s GOD speaking to me or satan? or my own inner voice.”

Although The Father’s Words from the Prophetic Cave is to the body of Christ, we also welcome and appreciate those Seekers from other non-Christian faiths. ( PS We promise never to beat you over the head with our Bible if we do not agree with everything that YOU believe. After all, the real respect others who may not believe how we believe is true Christ like. Yet, you too must allow us to practice and do what WE believe, and we will definitely not be compromisers.)

 

Since it would be cruel and rude of us to NOT share with you what we know to be the Truth, since the whole weight of EACH of OUR Eternity and the LIFE hereafter DEPENDS on EACH OF US Clearly discerning WHICH is the RIGHT VOICE to obey, and WHICH is the road that ends in ETERNAL LIFE. However, that part is up to YOU.

 

Note: “going into one’s prophetic cave” term may be compared to going into the Psalm 91 Secret Place of the Most High and like Jesus retreating into the Garden of Gethsemane.

SOME OTHER FAMOUS BIBLE (REAL) CAVES:

Genesis 19:30 Lot went up out of Zoar and dwelt in a CAVE with his two daughters.

Gen. 23:19 Abraham buried Sarah his wife in a CAVE

Gen. 25:9 Abraham was buried in a CAVE by his two sons

Joshua 10:16 Five enemy kings fled and hid themselves in a CAVE

I Samuel 22:1 David escaped to the CAVE of Adullam

1 Samuel 24:3-10 David and his men were already inside a CAVE when King Saul came in. David forbid his people to move and then Saul departed from the cave. However, then David went out of the cave and told King Saul that he had been near enough to kill him, but he had not, since King Saul was God’s anointed.

I Kings 18:4 When Queen Jezebel cut off the prophets of the Lord, Obadiah hid 100 prophets in a CAVE and fed them bread and water.

I Kings 19:9 The Verse we use for The Father’s Words from the Prophetic Cave (Elijah flees after practicing spiritual warfare and bold up front confrontation with the false prophets)

Psalm 57:1 A prayer of David as he fled from Saul IN THE CAVE.

Psalm 142:1 Another prayer/psalm of David when he was IN THE CAVE. “I cried unto the Lord with my voice; with my voice unto the Lord did I make my supplication.”

John 11:38 Jesus therefore groaning in himself, came to the grave. It was a CAVE and a stone lay on it. (Lazarus tomb)

 

 

MODERN DAY “PROPHETIC” CAVE DWELLERS

MODERN DAY “Prophetic cave dwellers” are often times leadership personalities, persons who have unique talents, vast creative and/or numerous spiritual gifts, big calls…and with all of that maybe also undue complex personalities, which may create confusion and even self imploding havoc within the privacy of their heightened Search for their defining real Call, sincere Identity and/or their “ability to resemble the Normal Establishment.” (all of which is not going to be fully possible…)

 

EACH PERSON’S UNIQUE true viewpoint has been cloaked in deep mystery, yet all created by the Most High God, for His Kingdom Purpose of being a leader, visionary, a genuine 5 fold office, and/or for leadership in business, work planting, worship, intercession, invention and many other real areas of life and accompanying big needed True Authority. However, the real realm of their “inside private Called Life” often makes the multi gifted, multifaceted, some genius, feel too odd, big peculiar, trapped, unaffirmed, even isolated and ALONE, majorly frustrated and/or rejected, accused and overwhelmed, even a tad depressed most of the time OR at least in certain seasons.

 

I used to like most all the above, until I met the Lord TRULY and found my ‘Identity ” in Jesus Christ, not in intellect, prophetic gifts, talents, possessions, office, appearance and or marital status, car, life style. Way back in the Prophetic Day, the “personality tests’ would doom me to “deep creative melancholy” which I was as a teen and a young 20’s (means oft prone to mood swings, big self hatred, down one oneself depression)…(while I never once acted in that same untoward manner to anyone else, just Me ..when alone.) Plus I had a unusually cherished and positive, even continually happy childhood, minus any abuse. So in hindsight, all emotional spiritual warfare came only from ONE DARK PLACE..the pit of the adversary, satan. So growing up…until 22-23…it was a safe place to really ponder and evaluate.

 

Yet, the enemy is merciless. And without any other negative accusation, other than a micro managing matriarchal dear well intentioned Mom, I spent up until around age 25 being trapped in low Self esteem, angst ridden big inner conflict. Exceedingly.

 

NOTE: About the mid 1980’s I was introduced to the fledgling Bible Word of Faith “Jesus Joy” at first childlike fun full faith “” movement. And my beloved Sr Pastor Aunt Mary Catherine (“Diddy”) , who would repeatedly encourage me, over the phone, to “See YOURSELF through God’s eyes of Faith and Love.” Which I began to do and that is what first started to pull me around. It actually dawned on me: I would automatically forgive anyone for anything …except for ME” And when I began to be less critical, removed fully my hyperperfectionism which was what triggered the abuse of Me by ashamed Me…and then I followed all of this with slowly withdrawing from the and severe My Self accusing which got triggered whenever I made a mistake or did something to hurt someone accidently, and/or , saw my own flaw. Soon after began to mellow out.

AND…Shortly after once I found the heavy revalation that “Jesus is the Only Source of My Esteem” plus the deep JOY OF THE LORD… and also began to let ONLY the Lord tell me WHO I WAS, AM IN CHRIST. then I really broke free from that (well intentioned) “human bondage” and have never felt that way in over 25-30 full years! (Aside, back in those same tests, they could doom a CHOLERIC (always big angry ) person to always feeling that were trapped into being like that forever, so since I broke free from apostolic MELANCHOLY..so is anyone else also able to BREAK OUT FROM THE HUMAN WELL MEANING DIAGNOSTIC PROPHESIED (?) LEGALISTIC MODE.**

** This is a Faith Principle, actually: APPLIED WORD OF FAITH says, “I am not going to be MOVED by anything I hear, read, see, am told, fear, but ONLY by what I find in God’s Holy Bible Word.”

THE PROPHETIC CAVE DWELLING (USUALLY INTENSE) POPULATION INCLUDES MANY OF THE FOLLOWING SUBGROUPS:

• Church or business leaders, ministers, spiritual pioneer, trailblazers, prophetic founders, highly brilliant, gifted, creative, multitalented, spiritually multigifted, office of apostle, prophet big called, singles, single parents, big inventors, creative visionaries, internet dwellers, geeks, deep high IQ bright thinkers, intellectuals, gifted teens, future and now leaders…ones called to ‘birth a new kind of work”
• Meaning…to name but a few.
• 

IF THE PROVERBIAL BUCK STOPS WITH YOU,

 

As a senior leader, head of household, alone unique individual..then you probably identify with the similar..in whole or in part. Also, you can probably identify with the need to run far from the many conforming, overpressuring elder voices…and simply get alone, then close your door and enjoy the time of INTROVERTING (‘apostolic incubating”) as YOU fully recharge after expending SO MUCH TIME giving out ( in the Extrovert since).

 

 

 

It’s as if YOU discern a great need to close the door on YOUR very own Prophetic cave…to relax and again begin YOUR ongoing big PROCESS of “assessing, evaluating, reading, perceiving AND discerning” if it’s actually The REAL inner leading of God’s wonderous Holy Spirit” or “to get a fresh heavenly word/’download”…and/or simply to be ALONE with the Lord, ‘hanging out in the apostolic Psalm 91 Secret Place** (** which is my own most Favorite Special (even Portable!!) Spot)

 

 

ONE BIG TCL MOTTO IS: THE CUTTING EDGE IS TO BE BALANCED

This writer truly believes that our Big God requires each of us to depart from within our “OWN” Prophetic Caves ..in order to effect society…and Relate..meaning to be a Good Witness, to share, to serve, to protect and to take a righteous (not self righteous) effective daily Stand..

Also to prove the GOOD NEWS (Gospel) means just that GOOD News not accusing or in any way disrespectful.

(ASSESSING… This comment regards RELATIONSHIP THEOLOGY http://www.relationshiptheology.org )

Apostle Taveau actively discourages all Living Cave Dwellers to refrain from becoming super spiritual, Overly Introspective, to Supersensitive, Only Looking Inward…and to assess ones very own Relationships from time to time…in order to avoid slowly turning into a “doing no earthly real relationship Good” as in a Spiritual Navel Gazer.

Taveau herself historically has tried to balance teachings, her own habits, regarding “PROPHETIC CAVE INTROSPECTION TIMES ALONE WITH THE LORD” WITH THE BIBLICAL BALANCE OF

• PRACTICING PERSONAL AND MINISTERIAL ACCOUNTABILITY,
• FELLOWSHIPPING WITH THE SAINTS
• ,AND LIVING IN COMMUNITY WITH OTHERS IN CHRIST’S TRUE BODY. (PSALM 133 “THAT IS WHERE GOD COMMANDS HIS BLESSING) CORPORATE WORSHIP AND FELLOWSHIP IS ALSO WHERE THE ANOINTING OF GOD IS MORE INTENSE.
• ALTHOUGH DR. T VALUES QUALITY TIME ALONE HEARING FROM THE LORD, SHE ALSO LOVES CORPORATE WORSHIP AND MINISTRY (AKA “OUTER CAVE EXPERIENCES.”)

IN CLOSING, WE WISH TO END WITH THIS QUESTION:

 

Q. IN THESE DAYS OF PC MODERN CULTURE:… would the Lord God really want you to turn “PC Politically Correct?” …or would He rather you turn more PC PROPHETIC CAVE??”

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