A WORD SENT THROUGH PROPHET HAGGAI…PART 3 Chapter 2:1-3

October 19, 2018 /

A WORD SENT THROUGH PROPHET HAGGAI

PART 3 :Chapter 2: 1-3

NOTE: This is way too long a message to finish Haggai Chapter 2 today, as it keeps coming forth.

PLEASE THIS WRITER DULY NOTE

For human persons who do not realize it, in 1976 (residing on the East Coast) ..as a fully on fire “born again” Holy Spirit filled, remaining basically genuinely quiet and abiding always in every human setting in enduring James 3:17 “ongoing respectful Relationship Fruit, and in “mutually submitted” Ephesians 5:21 , and in the abiding fear of the Lord” ….YET.. back then, perhaps would also have been assessed as encased in abject “fear of man” (human pleasing/possibly well on my way to being PC) as in PSALM 29:25 “The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe.”

Yet, it just so happened,that while the unknown, and Hebrews 10:25 “fellowshipping with the Pres-BY-terians, hallowed (non one whit Calvinistic) saints, while The SHE/HER was in church, that the Lord impressed upon her the following, “I want you to study My Body. All the types, styles, colors who “believe the Bible” and in being “Born again. I want you to study their leader doctrines, their preferred styles, their worship and also their Pet Red Flag Buzz Words…For one day you will help to build bridges(for commonality,to help grow community, body unity) amongst My Body..”

So I simply did that.

And during the course of such precise timing, and while being divinely led to attend this meeting or that church or that conference or that worship outpouring, big and very micro gathering, God began to sift me, to allow me to be there to Luke ongoing Style “participate, Noble Berean Bible research and to also be mostly blessed and imparted to by MANY fledgling more Holy Spirit prone pioneering ministries, ..which ongoing turned out to be national Deep Grass Roots “Christian Ministry” “ministry fellowship” and eventually society and personal, family and eventually into worldwide, diverse society and affecting me to assess and then wonder pray and ponder, but then fully decide to take a liberty to submit reflective SELAHS on behalf of WHAT POSSIBLY GOES ON UNDER THE SUN IN THE GOOD NAME OF “JESUS CHRIST FOLLOWING.”

And I have been out among the most “inspiring”(the use of the word “inspiring”does not automatically imply, mean to be INSPIRED in a POSITIVE ministry/leader fashion…yet it has caused the formerly Shy Doctrinal Shrinking from Attention Violet to become a fearless SHE creature) to be far more candid,even blunt and to at last shed all semblances of pastor, parent, prophet, professional family pleasing..and thus BE EVER SO BOLD and to plainly SPEAK OUT.

Since the January 2005 relocation to what I now refer to as MINISTRY BABYLON (a personal Psalm 137) (meaning traversing the apostolic fruit of the saints …however, all prior to my most recent big taste..in which I found,and now appreciate finding, much more Relationship Deeply Respectful, recent Holy Spirit led move. (And we note that this was absolute frankly 85 % nondenominationals, and I found, truly find that, that sincere ALL (wide region) RELATIONSHIPS are all apparently now left in the dear dutiful hands of denominationals, including Baptists, FUMethodists, Catholics and the similar who are not overly time consumed with pioneering their achievements, Keeping overseer close tabs on many various Ministry Authority/ Hierchal type “Ye Olde Who’s Over Whom” Hoops…

And who, for the most part, (all I encountered) clearly Other Centric…for all appeared to the stranger, repeated respectful visitor…to exhibit James 3:17 RELATIONSHIP THEOLOGY.http://www.relationshiptheology.org..as each was not one bit indifferent to the God Sent Visitor… (meaning. none radiated fruit of being “immune” to a newbie, as they gave no trace of being Self Involved.)

They seem to want to “really get” Real Ministry Life’s multicultural OTHERS…And while always hard at work for the people and things of the Lord…nary a one that I encountered seemed show ANY overt signs of compassion fatigue …AND /or NOand/or newbie,area alien ..nor ministry complacent, Deep South Village, bland cliquish clannishness…as well as ZERO visiting stranger deep mistrust.

I fully commend all of these for their Caring Providing DFW Community..(How: By Placing more Value on RELATIONSHIPS VS BEING IN MINISTRY/ BUSINESS, and/or proceeding to BE VERY BLESSED) Sincere Truly TO ALL RESPECTFUL True Fruit.

HAGGAI CHAPTER 2:1-3 KJV

V.1 In the seventh month, in the one and twentieth day of the month, came the word of the LORD by the prophet Haggai, saying,

Later, God sent another important Word through His Prophet Haggai.

V.2 Speak now to Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, and to the residue of the people, saying,

Once again the word from the Lord were addressed to leaders Zerrubabel, the governor of the Hebrew southern kingdom of Judah and to the son of the area high priest, Joshua but also specifically to the Hebrew people “Godly remnant” (“residue”) who were scattered among the general population.

V.3 Who is left among you that saw this house in her first glory? and how do ye see it now? is it not in your eyes in comparison of it as nothing?

Coming through the words of the mature prophet, the Lord inquired amongst The national, local, regional Godly REMNANT….

As in God asking, ” Who can remember when My temple, My House truly reflected and ministry represented My Eternal Glory?”(Even remembering when God’s shekinah glory cloud came in during worship, for example(s):

I KINGS 8:11 “so that the priests could not stand there to minister because of the cloud; for the glory of the LORD filled the house of the LORD.”

2 CHRONICLES 5:13-14 (V.13) “So that the priests could not stand to minister by reason of the cloud: for the glory of the LORD had filled the house of God.The trumpeters and singers joined together to praise and thank the LORD with one voice. (V.14)They raised their voices, accompanied by trumpets, cymbals, and musical instruments, in praise to the LORD: “For He is good; His loving devotion endures forever.” Then the temple, the house of the LORD, was filled with a cloud”

2 CHRONICLES 7:2 “The priests were not able to enter the house of the LORD, because the glory of the LORD had filled it.”

MORE MODERN DAY INQUIRING

And in a God’s Grace Given (For Living Amidst All of This) Cultural Hindsight Assessment

How many among you who have served the Lord for the last 20-45 years, recall when some of these following now “settled in” Holy Spirit, worship, prophetic, nondenominational, amidst denominations, first began to emerge? (As in meaning: the ministry /social, Big Time period after Billy Graham: Vineyard, Jesus People, pentecostal-charismatic many various moves, worship, intercessory prayer, apostolic Word of Faith, Christian television, glossy Christian print magazines, all kinds of apostolic fledgling MEDIA (Prior TO ONLINE and becoming widespread, during and following), …and now AFTER…

And meaning dating pre adopting TV chief inventive, accusative media..pre 80’s back …Prior to the venture into accusative politics..such as“We are Religious Right” “Attack, Heightened Accusative Partisan Disrespecting Politics” “Hate Speech” Prior to Born Again Mighty MEGA Ministry, Prior to Growth of CELEBRITY in ministry, worship, for Entertainment very kind of imaginable type of Christian?

Regarding any remembering the FORMER “faith filled area, local, ministry, lay fortitude, all FRUIT…” and What is being presented, often reproduced, “represented as Following Jesus Christ “ and Born Again John 3:16 command as in NOW.

Honest POST CHRISTIAN (appearing to be) View? However, in the midst of the passionate, choosing to be well informed vast masses, we find an undercurrent “all relationships affecting/even afflicting” pseudo show biz, increasingly dogmatic, applied formula, even some ministry specific spots “ crazymatic”submitted “vulture worship Big ME” culture …

And/or overly well fed “all wise” “Bible ministry being reproduced “Famous Preacher Worshippers” and junior massively ornery “self seeking (assessed as mostly well intentioned BOANERGE) who be they “assertive and trained to be BOLD” are also way too sincere but assessed dull and quite imperceptive, as they are trained to “sit UNDER the abiding Bible teaching of ONLY ONE Top Pastor, Apostle” and not test the ministry teaching as Apostle Paul strongly recommended that God’s true (Noble Berean like) people test out HIS (revealed ….RELATIONSHIP…. NON BUSINESS ACHIEVEMENT) doctrine.

And due to primarily being held back Under the Old Testament Levitical Law, legalism and once USED to be primarily good, helpful Tradition, this senior seasoned regional missionary now dimly regards the lack of maturity and the shallow doctrines which are making “Christ” “Jesus following”

Accepting Christ as the ONLY True Lord and abiding (non bigoted) Savior “Be Ye Born Again” as massively confused, looking foolish and greatly watered WAY down in the light of PC compromise, lack of fundamental realistic, not always “FUN” teaching and the Godly balance of YES, Jesus comes to provide, to bless, to heal and “offers the more Abundant Life” …plus Eternal Forever Heaven” yet the quality of Real Relationships falls far beneath the pastor, apostle, prophet, evangelist and early First Church teachers non legalistically, House To House authentically, perceived as accurately, portrayed.

Mainly out among the Ye Olde Social Networks, Barista Fellowships and advent of PC, Mall Culture …this sent person deeply encounters the DOCTRINAL PRODUCTS of USA Christian prior , present ministry. And that is the real reason for what appears to be some aside big time confused and many ‘raised “back UNDER the Bible traditions” (oldest to newer) have many, if not MOST of the NOW /RISING Generation..still groveling, or angrily grumbling with a great many of these actively willfully testing out many various OTHER religions.

And while a sincere, ministry, dutiful lay advocating REMNANT is still mingled in in singles, a tiny handful and in various local areas, even vastly larger (non clannish, non clubbing ) GROUPS…, there is much pressure from the accusing, majorly big confusing, 24/7/365 assigned media…and from the nearly all around, all wise becoming critical, hardening, ultra suspicious world CULTURE is starting to encircle.

Am wondering “as Christian leadership, as in ministry” focused more and more on gaining prosperity, health, clearly promised Blessing, big wise achievement and even ministry attaining being well respected, fully accepted and being “Internationally Recognized” …about what type of long term affects did this ,has this had, upon God fearing personal, ministry, business and fellowship, community ALL RELATIONSHIPS. Yet need to set this topic aside due to acquiring length. Will instead refer to site ABIDING RELATIONSHIP THEOLOGY www.relationshiptheology.org for a needed Noble Berean perceived inaugurate checks and (nonemotional) balances.