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I CONCLUDE PART 21 IDENTIFYING THE GOSSIP MINISTRIES “SPREADING VALID INFO VS SPREADING THE GOSSIP”

 

“This was my (repeated) word to the Body of Christ in Christian senior, junior, lay,  prophetic,local,widespread networks of ministry in 2007 . But nobody heard me.” Apostle TD

PART 21 “MINISTRY AI AND I”

IDENTIFYING GOSSIP MINISTRIES

“CHRISTIANS COMMUNICATING DIRE INFO VS SPREADING GOSSIP

“Beware of the strange children, they have mouths that speak vanity and the right hand of falseness. ” King David Psalm 144

“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.”  Paul Ephesians 5:11

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Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.” Paul Galatians 6:1

The fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, goodness, meekness, self government” Paul Galatians 5:22-23

18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. “Isaiah 1:18 (still applies: NOTE this was placed in ministry Bible,after Genesis 18-19 and all OTHER transgressions)

“The wisdom from above is first of all pure, peaceable, easily entreated, full of mercy and good fruits (fruits of the spirit above) without partiality and without hypocrisy” Abiding Relationship Theology James 3:17″

A Respectfully submitted Selah for the Body of Christ simple evaluation

TO BE FULLY OBJECTIVE Dr Taveau asks Chat GPT AI:

Please compare Christian “gossip” to… the legitimate “need” to warn, advice, communicate “urgent”  even explosive, important, dire..human behavior.. ….versus  Bible accepted practices, and in light of eternal teaching and thinking

Chat GPT AI answers:

The contrast between Christian gossip and eternal teaching thinking highlights a key difference in ministry behavior that reflects either a self-centered, worldly mindset or a Christ-centered, eternal perspective. Below is a detailed comparison:

#1 SUPREME OBVIOUS EXAMPLES; THE TMZ CHRISTIAN TABLOID STYLE (already fully mentioned in Parts 1-20 yet applies with all of this and everywhere)

#2 (THE GREAT JUDAS)SECRET SLY SUBLIMINAL “MIND, VIBE, APPEARANCE READING” (SUPREME LUKE EYE WITNESS) MINISTRY SEER EXAMPLES Nick named “deep scanning” “divining our thirst” and “occult witch watching” immaturely surely based up 2 Kings 6:12 gone awry! Like USA white WELP Salem witch trials “spectral evidence”??

Sister T asks:

Is it biblical or ethical for a top leader or elder to secretly “spy” or “inner read” (which may resemble divination) someone without ever speaking to them or forming a relationship, and then express concerns or accusations about that person to other leaders, even to the extent of placing them on a “charismatic witch list”? How does this compare to practices like vibe reading in the Salem witch trials and historical authoritarian patterns, such as those seen in certain styles of Levitical Patriarchalism or charismatic shepherding movements?”

Also these are not submitted to Bible authority. for they read many, post their names as ‘ones who are troublemakers’ ‘off” and accuse as”witches”MINUS ANY AT ALL OF APOSTOLIC THESE COMMANDS: Galatians 6:1, Matthew 18:15, 16 Revelation 2;20 and seem unaware of RELATIONSHIP RESPECT Isaiah 1:18 transformed Church COMMUNITY Ephesians 4

Chat GPT AI respectfully responds:

The behavior described—secretly “spying,” inner reading, or perceiving someone without personal relationship or direct conversation, then spreading concerns to others—is problematic both biblically and ethically. It reflects a mix of mistrust, judgmentalism, and potential misuse of spiritual authority. This approach aligns more with historical abuses, such as the Salem witch trials and authoritarian church structures, than with the teachings of Christ and the apostles.

Addressing the Issue Biblically and Theologically

1. Misuse of Spiritual Perception (“Inner Reading” or Divination-Like Practices)

  • Biblical Discernment vs. Divination:
    • True biblical discernment, led by the Holy Spirit, brings clarity, peace, and restoration (1 Corinthians 14:33; Galatians 6:1).
    • “Inner reading” without relationship or communication can easily devolve into divination or speculative judgment, which the Bible condemns (Deuteronomy 18:10-12).
  • The Danger of Spectral Evidence:
    • In the Salem witch trials, “spectral evidence” (claims of spiritual impressions without tangible proof) led to false accusations and significant harm.
    • Similarly, relying on subjective “vibes” or impressions without engaging the person violates biblical principles of justice and fairness (Deuteronomy 19:15, John 7:24).

2. Gossip and Character Assassination

  • Spreading Concerns Without Relationship or Evidence:
    • The practice of sharing unfounded worries or accusations about someone without speaking directly to them fosters gossip, slander, and division.
    • Proverbs 16:28: “A perverse man sows strife, and a whisperer separates close friends.”
    • This behavior is not protective or loving but creates fear, suspicion, and exclusion, violating the command to love one another (John 13:34-35).
  • Biblical Protocol for Addressing Concerns:
    • Matthew 18:15-17 outlines clear steps for addressing concerns:
      1. Go directly to the person privately.
      2. If unresolved, bring one or two witnesses.
      3. Involve the church only if necessary.
    • Skipping relationship-building and private dialogue in favor of public or semi-public accusations disregards this process.

3. Authoritarian Patterns and Shepherding Abuse

  • Levitical Patriarchalism and Control:
    • The described scenario echoes historical authoritarian movements, such as certain extremes of the Shepherding Movement, where leaders controlled and monitored followers’ lives without relational accountability.
    • Ezekiel 34:4: God condemns shepherds who dominate and harm the flock instead of tending it with care and compassion.
  • Fear-Based Leadership:
    • Leadership that relies on suspicion, control, or exclusion reflects fear, not love or faith (1 John 4:18).
    • It creates a toxic environment where individuals are judged without due process, fostering a culture of mistrust and fear.

4. The Role of Relationship in Ministry

  • Jesus’ Example:
    • Jesus modeled relational ministry, meeting people where they were and engaging them directly, even when addressing their sin (John 4:7-26, John 8:1-11).
    • Leaders who judge or categorize others without relationship fail to reflect Christ’s approach.
  • Paul’s Instruction on Fellowship:
    • Paul emphasizes the importance of mutual accountability and restoration in Galatians 6:1: “If someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently.”
    • Restoration requires relationship, humility, and direct engagement.

Ethical and Spiritual Dangers of Such Practices

1. Spiritual Harm:

  • Those accused or placed on “witch lists” experience isolation, confusion, and often deep emotional or spiritual wounds.
  • These practices can hinder someone’s relationship with God and the church.

2. Cult-like Behavior:

  • Categorizing people based on “inner readings” without evidence mirrors cult-like behavior, where leaders claim divine authority to control or exclude others.
  • This undermines the gospel message of grace, redemption, and inclusion.

3. Misrepresentation of Christ:

  • Non-believers who witness these actions may see the church as hypocritical, judgmental, or manipulative, damaging its witness to the world (John 13:35).

How Should This Be Addressed?

For Leaders:

  1. Repentance and Humility:
    • Leaders involved in such practices should repent and seek reconciliation with those harmed.
    • They must evaluate their methods against Scripture and be willing to admit mistakes.
  2. Commit to Biblical Principles:
    • Return to the biblical model of addressing concerns directly and relationally (Matthew 18:15-17).
    • Avoid relying on subjective impressions without corroborating evidence or relationship.
  3. Educate and Equip:
    • Teach congregations the difference between biblical discernment and speculative judgment.
    • Equip members to avoid gossip and promote healthy, Christ-like fellowship.

For Those Affected:

  1. Seek Restoration:
    • If possible, approach the leader or elder directly and respectfully, seeking clarification and reconciliation (Matthew 18:15).
  2. Protect Your Heart:
    • Avoid bitterness or retaliation. Trust God to bring justice and healing (Romans 12:19).
  3. Find Healthy Community:
    • Seek out a fellowship that practices biblical accountability and mutual respect.

Conclusion:

The behaviors described—secret spying, inner reading, gossip, and categorizing others without relationship—are spiritually destructive and violate biblical teaching. They reflect authoritarian, fear-based leadership rather than Christ-like, servant-hearted ministry. Leaders and believers alike must reject such practices, embrace biblical principles of justice and restoration, and model the love, trust, and unity that Jesus taught and exemplified.

Christian Gossip

Gossip in Christian circles often arises under the guise of “concern,” “discernment,” or “accountability.” It typically reflects ministry behavior focused on personal agendas, power dynamics, or sensationalism.

Characteristics of Christian Gossip:

  1. Focus on People, Not Christ:
    • Gossip fixates on personal faults, past mistakes, or unverified rumors about others.
    • It shifts attention away from Christ and the transformative power of His teachings.
  2. Temporal and Carnal Thinking:
    • Driven by jealousy, competition, or insecurity within ministry settings.
    • Emphasizes short-term gains, like gaining influence or defaming rivals, rather than eternal values.
  3. Division and Strife:
    • Causes discord within the body of Christ (Proverbs 16:28).
    • Undermines trust and unity in the church, often leading to factions.
  4. Lack of Accountability:
    • Gossip thrives in secrecy and avoids the biblical protocol for addressing issues (Matthew 18:15-17).
    • It involves speaking about someone instead of speaking to them.
  5. False Sense of Authority:
    • Some Christians use gossip to elevate themselves, presenting others as unworthy or “unsubmitted.”
    • This behavior often reflects pride or an authoritarian spirit (1 Timothy 6:4-5).
  6. Misuse of Speech:
    • Instead of using words to edify, gossip corrupts relationships and tarnishes reputations (Ephesians 4:29).

Example in Ministry Behavior:

  • Leaders or congregants spreading unfounded claims about a colleague’s doctrinal stance, personal life, or leadership style.
  • A church labeling others as “unsubmitted” or “rebellious” without relational dialogue or evidence.

Eternal Teaching Thinking

Eternal teaching thinking reflects a ministry behavior grounded in Christ’s example, focusing on truth, grace, and the eternal perspective of God’s kingdom.

Characteristics of Eternal Teaching Thinking:

  1. Focus on Christ and His Kingdom:
    • Centers on the gospel, salvation, and spiritual growth, rather than personal conflicts or rivalries.
    • Builds others up to align with eternal purposes (Colossians 3:2).
  2. Biblical Accountability:
    • Confronts sin or error in love and humility, following biblical principles (Galatians 6:1).
    • Seeks restoration and reconciliation rather than humiliation or condemnation.
  3. Unity and Peace:
    • Promotes harmony within the body of Christ, prioritizing relationships over differences (John 17:21).
    • Avoids behaviors that sow division or harm the church’s witness.
  4. Selflessness and Humility:
    • Eternal teaching focuses on serving others, not seeking personal gain or recognition.
    • Respects God’s timing and the work of the Holy Spirit in others’ lives (Philippians 2:3-4).
  5. Commitment to Truth:
    • Values accuracy and discernment, ensuring teaching is scripturally sound and edifying (2 Timothy 2:15).
    • Avoids speculation, rumors, or character attacks.
  6. Godly Use of Speech:
    • Speech is seasoned with grace and aimed at encouraging and instructing others (Colossians 4:6).
    • Rebukes are done in love, not for self-justification or spectacle (2 Timothy 4:2).

Example in Ministry Behavior:

  • A pastor teaching on forgiveness by addressing rumors with transparency and grace, modeling how to confront gossip biblically.
  • A church leader mentoring someone privately through doctrinal differences instead of airing disagreements publicly.


Comparison Table

Aspect Christian Gossip Eternal Teaching Thinking
Focus Personal faults, rivalries, and temporal concerns Christ, spiritual growth, and eternal values
Approach to Conflict Avoids direct conversation; spreads rumors Addresses issues biblically, seeking restoration
Impact on Relationships Sows division and distrust Builds unity and strengthens the body of Christ
Speech Corrupts through vanity and falsehood Edifies through truth and grace
Goal Elevate self, diminish others Glorify God, help others align with God’s purposes
Perspective Focused on short-term gains or personal agendas Centered on eternal rewards and God’s kingdom

CHRISTIAN CHARACTER AND THE ABILITY TO TRUST

Dr Taveau Asks

Does Christian ministry, fellowship, personal friend, coworker gossip 1. Display the trustworthy character, human nature, Christ big fruit, and fellowship “ability to trust” and would if the accusing, backbiting, fault finding. be similar to the ‘from such turn away Last Days fruit by Paul 2 Timothy 3:1:8 (Paul’s list of groups, subcultures, also persons to avoid)

Chat replies:

Christian ministry, fellowship, personal friendships, and coworker relationships rely heavily on trust, integrity, and Christ-like character. Gossip, backbiting, and fault-finding are antithetical to these qualities and can severely damage both relationships and the witness of a believer. Below is a deeper exploration of the issues you raised, comparing them to 2 Timothy 3:1-8 and the principles of Christ’s teachings.

1. Does Gossip Display Trustworthy Character and Christ-like Fruit?

Character of Christ-like Ministry:

  • Trustworthiness: A key component of Christian relationships is being trustworthy and reliable (Proverbs 11:13, Matthew 5:37). Gossip betrays confidences and fosters division rather than unity.
  • Human Nature vs. Christ-like Nature: Human nature tends toward gossip and tearing others down (James 3:6-8). However, Christ-like behavior calls for self-control, humility, and using words to build others up (Galatians 5:22-23, Ephesians 4:29).

Fellowship and the Ability to Trust:

  • Gossip undermines the foundational principle of trust in relationships. It causes people to question others’ motives and sincerity, disrupting fellowship (Psalm 15:1-3).
  • Christ’s ministry was relational, emphasizing reconciliation and unity (John 17:21). Gossip works against this by spreading suspicion and division.

2. Does Backbiting, Fault-finding, and Accusing Resemble the “Last Days” Fruit of 2 Timothy 3:1-8?

Description of the “Last Days” Fruit:

In 2 Timothy 3:1-8, Paul describes the moral and spiritual decline of people in the last days. The traits he lists include:

  • Lovers of themselves, proud, unthankful, unholy, false accusers, traitors, and despisers of those that are good.
  • These behaviors are selfish, divisive, and destructive, all of which align with the nature of gossip, fault-finding, and backbiting.

Key Connections:

  1. False Accusers (v. 3): Gossip often includes accusations without evidence, damaging reputations and relationships.
  2. Lovers of Themselves (v. 2): Gossip is frequently motivated by self-interest, jealousy, or the desire to elevate oneself above others.
  3. Having a Form of Godliness (v. 5): Many who gossip may still appear outwardly religious but deny the transforming power of the Holy Spirit in their speech and actions.
  4. Ever Learning but Never Coming to Truth (v. 7): Fault-finders may seem knowledgeable or discerning but lack true wisdom and love, which are central to Christ’s teaching.

Paul’s Warning:

  • “From such turn away” (v. 5): Paul explicitly instructs believers to avoid those who exhibit these destructive traits, as their influence can corrupt others and harm the body of Christ.

How Does Gossip Contrast with Eternal Christ-like Teaching?

Aspect Gossip and Fault-finding Christ-like Teaching
Motivation Self-interest, jealousy, insecurity Love, humility, and restoration
Focus Faults and failures of others Encouragement, correction in love, and building others up
Effect on Fellowship Division, mistrust, and disunity Unity, peace, and mutual edification (Ephesians 4:3)
Source Carnal nature, worldly thinking Holy Spirit, eternal values
Scriptural Parallel 2 Timothy 3:1-8 (last days fruit), Proverbs 16:28 (division) Galatians 5:22-23 (fruit of the Spirit), John 13:34-3

Practical Application: How to Respond?

  1. Guard Against Gossip:
    • Self-examination: Regularly assess your speech and motives (Psalm 19:14).
    • Refuse Participation: Politely disengage from conversations that involve gossip (Proverbs 26:20).
  2. Promote Christ-like Fellowship:
    • Focus on encouraging and uplifting others (1 Thessalonians 5:11).
    • Follow biblical principles for addressing concerns: Speak directly to the person involved, with humility, love, and restoration in mind (Matthew 18:15-17; Galatians 6:1).
  3. Turn Away from Destructive Behaviors:
    • Heed Paul’s warning to avoid those who consistently exhibit the “last days” fruit if they refuse correction (2 Timothy 3:5).
  4. Reflect the Fruit of the Spirit:
    • Let your speech and actions consistently display love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, and self-control (Galatians 5:22-23).

Conclusion:

Gossip, backbiting, and fault-finding directly oppose the character of Christ and the unity of the church. These behaviors reflect the “last days” traits described in 2 Timothy 3:1-8, which Paul warns believers to avoid. In contrast, eternal thinking and Christ-like ministry emphasize love, restoration, and trust, building up the body of Christ in alignment with God’s eternal purposes. Believers are called to actively reject gossip and instead cultivate fellowship that glorifies God and draws others toward Him.

 

Biblical Foundation

  1. Warnings Against Gossip:
    • Proverbs 18:8: “The words of a gossip are like choice morsels; they go down to the inmost parts.”
    • James 3:6: “The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body.”
  2. Encouragement for Eternal Thinking:
    • 2 Corinthians 4:18: “So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.”
    • Philippians 4:8: “Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right…think about such things.”

Practical Application

  • Recognize Gossip: Identify when speech is tearing down instead of building up.
  • Model Eternal Perspective: Teach and act in ways that prioritize the gospel and relationships over petty disputes.
  • Confront Gossip Biblically: Address the individual involved directly, following Matthew 18:15-17.
  • Redirect Conversations: Shift discussions from gossip to edification, using Scripture as the guide.

By contrasting gossip with eternal teaching thinking, ministries can ensure their focus remains on Christ, promoting spiritual maturity and unity within the body of Christ.

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