THE ABOVE QUOTE: not by myself, heard it somewhere recently. Want to give them credit..so if you know, email. Thanks.

NOTE: this was first posted July 20,2019 www.dfwleader.org And if a significant word for the USA Body of Christ

 

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^” Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. “Exodus 20:7

WE NEED MATURE CONSCIOUSNESS RAISING…. APOSTLES

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VOCABULARY…APOSTLES..BIG TOPICS IN SOME MINISTRY AREAS. Main Stream Hopefully Mature Leader Consciousness Raising

SOME OF THIS IN THE ENCLOSED AFTERMATH...IS AKIN TO “TAKING THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN VAIN.”(Ministry USING GOD’S HOLY RIGHTEOUS NAME to GAIN MAMMON, PEOPLES and/or POWER, ELITE POSITION. (Akin to Ye Olde Christian Ministry Bait and Switch, false advertising: Saying “we want to show YOU the love of Jesus Christ, to help to better YOUR Life…but ..rather WE want to take everything that YOU got, use YOUR gifts, talents, work ethic for US, ME, WE,etc” )

^“Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. “Mosaic Ten Commandments Exodus 2:7

REAL POINT…

CHIEF APOSTLE, APOSTLE PAUL said in so many leader words…”I AM AN GOD SENT APOSTLE OFFICE”…so this and many other Bible scriptures are all in most modern day ministry Vocabulary. ..be they of any race, cosmopolitan or rural, deep south or north, and denominational or completely rid of one (completely rid of any, all denomination, that is).

 

And by each “Ye Must Be Born Again” local, area, media, on land, online.. ministry saying that THEY can best communicate and represent Saving Jesus Christ… it is extremely important that each and every one gets the TRUE BALANCED Bible Perspective…for any well meaning VOCABULARY can provoke a great number of MEMORIES,HISTORIC IMAGES and will to both leader and lay…for good or bad… represent a variety of meaning depending upon which all male Bible teaching stream one is called BY, works FOR,and healthy follows, and admires.

 

AD TO THIS what TV, Movies (Robert DeNiro “The Apostle”) and Aunts, beloved Grannies and/or “overseer Pastors, Leaders” and passed down local, ministry various equipping teaching has taught. US American media, passed down heritage. (mostly WE CENTRIC)..but when this runs rampant to most races, via MEDIA..the Yeast of the Neo Pharisees, FAD-U-CEES (passing winds, trends of area doctrine) rampantly spreads. And it has always continued since USA Madison Square Avenue Glamor, Emphasis on Marketing Presentation( BRANDING) and it’s every present kindred spirit of agressive Social Climbing. And also the Get Rich With Jesus Began** in the materialistic, rapidly racing, prophetically sensing the Call to become Upwardly Mobile, secular PLUS Ye Must Be Born Again ministry Christian starting about …maybe around the late 1970’s… but full flash on in the 1980s.

 

* * ASIDE…Nothing is the matter with learning how to have FAITH for your FINANCES. If one avoids I TIMOTHY 6:5, PLUS competition, materialism, keeping up with the Joneses, the lust for other things and or materialism, greed. SO not attacking the “faith for finances” Bible groups. Just a wise warning to Noble Berean, starting with THE TOP FOUNDER on down.**

BIG DISCLAIMER:

**DOING THIS TYPE OF HONEST, BIBLE NOBLE BEREAN, SENT APOSTOLIC MINISTRY DOCTRINAL EVALUATION, RESEARCH…MUST NOT to be regarded darkly as overly immaturely (which may be assessed as SELF RIGHTEOUSLY) regarded as SEARCHING OUT WICKEDNESS, ON A WITCH HUNT TO GAIN PERSONAL GLORY BY FERRETING OUT FALSE TEACHERS, (which is in itself ACCUSATIVE, AS IN EVIL) …For “purely HONORABLE” Noble Bereans … APOSTLE PAUL advised God’s people to do with each one of HIS OWN Bible teachings. Hence he praised the Jews who compared what he said to their Torah, and he proclaimed then NOBLE BEREANS.”

AND as a Noble Berean….I simply would encourage every person to read through the TOP LEADER FOUNDER, the Original Doctrine Head Originator, to find out what HE, SHE has said, long before the following big Christian descending well intentioned generations did with it and TO IT.

 

USA WIDESPREAD MINISTRY EXAMPLES: Are the (2-3 more ministry generations) as in the ORIGINATORS now following, modern descendant Practitioners of what /who USED TO AT ONE TIME be God’s Bible Stream New, leader ministry apostolic, instead adding to his or her ORIGINAL EQUIPPING TEACHING …Are the ministry descendants Under the OT Law while the Original Organic was not? Have they added in much more Hierarchy , Required Autocratic Rules, set up formula, man pleasing incessant leader/overseer demanded New Traditions of Humans, which also could be Neo Phariseeism. Are they now including big SHOW BIZ and PERSONA and have to be waited on, preferred, bowed down to and/or pampered, doted on and/or carefully handled? Prophetic, senior apostle him, her Born Again Minister diva..doesn’t line up with New Testament. (note scriptures below)

 

HENCE to “produce a lot of new inquiring Leader Realistic Teaching Thought…while I count the FIRST CHURCH 12 Original Apostles, Jesus 12 disciples as deserving of a CAPITAL A Apostle, CAPITAL P Prophet, CAPITAL P Pastor, etc..I regard anything ministry wise apostolic in myself and all following descending big and smaller Bible toting generations as “little a, servant leader, even very renown, hear of apostles.”

 

APOSTLE PAUL DESCRIBES HIS OWN VIEW OF APOSTLES, WHICH INCLUDES HIMSELF AND THIS FELLOW COLABORER …”SERVANT APOSTLE”

And when one watches for (in modern views regarded as “the FAMOUS “) Chief Apostle Paul, who penned 2/3 of the New Testament, and describes his OWN “sent by God” we note Paul’s ministry vocabulary, speeling choices whenever he pens about what we describe as the “servant leader nonelevated, non elite 5 fold ministry office plus also bishop

READ and watch in Ephesians 4 all 5 offices are in lower case letters.

GALATIANS 1:1-2 KJV “Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;) 2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia “

GALATIANS 1:2 …when Paul describes himself as “a God sent apostle” we find each and every New Testament Letter word as “NOT in a Capital letter, which to this presumably sensible human person as “denoting servant pioneering leader, wise elder.”

ASSESSING PAUL’S DESCRIPTION OF “BISHOP” I Timothy 3: 1-3: all lower case, no super star, ministry celebrity

3 This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.² A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;ETC

APOSTLE PAUL IN ACTS 10:28-30 KJV is a real warning to each organic APOSTLE, LEADER TOP FOUNDER

“Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. ²⁹ For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

 

Submitted as Selah not Autocratic Leader Dogma

FOR THE LAST (but barely scratching the surface of this well discussed Big Topic)

APOSTLE PAUL’S PERSONAL APOSTOLIC DEPICTION OF HIS WELL KNOWN OFFICE

I CORINTHIANS

⁹ For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.

¹⁰ We are fools for Christ’s sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honorable, but we are despised.

¹¹ Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;

¹² And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

¹³ Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.

¹⁴ I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn** you.”

PERHAPS it was due to Apostle Paul’s NON ELITE, Outer appearance, (He nor Jesus Christ were good looking or prophetic impressive, or hugely important, appearing to be wealthy, ministry personas.)

(NOTE: I’ve repeatedly encountered this from the Deep Grass Roots point of view. NOT one bit famous, NOT sheltered by staff, handlers, adoring ministry fans) SO for the sake of the ministry similar, I will state;

**ALSO…WHY ” WARN?”..maybe the ministers and immature lay were NOT willing to accept the unusual packaging in which God had SENT his senior ministry chief equipping apostle.
Perhaps the advantageous carnal Corinthians had a ministry group who were attempting to use apostle for his credibility, his multigifting.

 

WE NOTE: The new carnal Corinthian church was on a seaport and had a LOT of spiritual, carnal human mixture in it. We also point out that there was no prior ministry or Bible teaching pastor generation prior from which to draw, ask question and or to get ideas from. The New Christian First Church had it’s hands more than filled with meetings, evangelizing the many Jews and area Gentiles but also in times of prayer and fasting, trying to hear from the LORD in many unique Start Up Ways, Methods and IDEAS via Holy Spirit downloaded daily Big and Small REVELATIONS..all of which were “in their own personal RELATIONSHIP with the Lord” without any New Testament, other than the bits and pieces of Apostle Paul’s letters, which “THE FAMOUS APOSTLE” (as many today would regard him) Paul wrote usually from his prison cell.

And as a servant of the most High God, were Edomite… as in carnal hierling, Apostolic Mammon Centric, vastly Boanerge minister (immature), many deeply vulture toxic, carnal body)…and base as to underlying lie in wait.. wanting to taking advantage of his weak appearance, maybe try to use him and/or maybe to ministry mock Paul,, his office, and insomuch despise and spiritually, emotionally, even financially, through stress even physically in effect TOUGH “God’s anointed”…

 

Among the leaders and carnal lay, it is very possible that the “carnal wolves” intermixed with the True Pure Hearted, had let it out how they had been expecting a Fine Business Prophet, to whom they could bow and scrape, for one such as that could fill their coffers. No, servant chief apostle Paul had an eye infection, was not renown for powerful speaking and evidently did not APPEAR to be the “APOSTOLIC KIND” as resembling a highly profitable King Solomon Renown Kind, and/or another Famous Elevated Pulpit which a few of them may have secretly wanted and may have envisioned the apostle role as one of glamor, fame and easy success.

MORE about all of this, but at another God appointed time.

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