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“’Been observing that senior ministers who are primarily interested in finding out who IS or is not “UNDER” ONE OF THEM, are mostly interested in TITHES, AREA POSITION and their OWN LEADER DOCTRINES RE(this is mostly Old Testament Law intermixed) HUMAN COVERING ..rather than placing bigger VALUE on THE WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD, HIS ENTIRE BIBLE, and ABIDING IN A EPHESIANS 4 UNITY, and EPHESIANS 5:21 “mutual submission in the fear of the Lord” interactive apostolic RELATIONSHIP”. (And/OR in maintaining, doctrinally espousing an ETERNAL /FELLOWSHIP FAMILY” underlying PERSPECTIVE) PS Servant leader Christ never trained any where in the New Testament about “being “under SUBMISSION” to only one local pastor” or “Local One Church Member..as it was ALL FIRST CHURCH in COMMON UNDIGNIFIED ONGOING UNITY” (Yet, if the leader writer has missed a verse, please respectfully submit it in an James 3:17 email) IFFM Ministry Founder
YE SHALL UNDERSTAND THEM BY THEIR REAL RESPECT FOR ALL BOUNDARIES
WHAT is CHRIST FOLLOWING and MINISTRY SUPPOSED TO BE ALL ABOUT: ACHIEVING OR EDIFYING, GUARDING, GUIDING, GOVERNING…. ALL ABIDING RELATIONSHIPS?
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BASIC BOUNDARIES: Physical, Emotional, Doctrinal,Individual Human Personal, Leader Choice, Family, Spousal, True Authority, Office, Governmental, Presumed 5 fold office, etc
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PSALMS 111:10 – The fear of the LORD IS the beginning of wisdom: a GOOD (PERCEIVER AWARENESS, SKILLED) have all they that do His commandments: his praise endureth for ever.”
BUT IF, WHERE, WHEN there is “no holy fear of the Lord” instead of that being the “beginning of GOD’S HOLY SPIRIT” it rather marks the beginning of the complete OPPOSITE..foolishness, accuser presumption, formula pastors, chief apostles commanding,demanding all from mimicking rising senior ambitious ministers/ thusly ministry trained to do so, willing eager lay.**
** ASIDE:TO INSTRUCT on BIBLE HOLY FEAR OF THE LORD? Proverbs 2:1-5 “If you cry out for it but also seek GOD’S SUPERNATURAL WISDOM as hard, as much as YOU do making, possessing big Bucks “silver and solid GOLD” THEN you will “find the fear of the Lord….”
IF, WHEN the “Holy fear of the Lord” (Proverbs 1:7” The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.”) is actively present within a HEBREWS 10:25 (servant apostolic) “fellowshipping with the saints” ..one will observe how the FELLOW CHRIST FOLLOWERS, Senior, Rising MINISTERS may or may not OBSERVE and ABIDINGLY RESPECT every other persons AUTHORITY, EMOTIONAL, LEADER, LAY “perceived and discerned” BOUNDARIES.
IF they are DISCERNING, have SHARP DEEP SPIRITUAL AWARENESS, and PURE HEARTS, NO HIDDEN PERSONAL AGENDAS, IMPROPER MOTIVES then abiding MESSIAH AKIN SPIRITUAL TRUE FRUIT will make them EASY TO DWELL AMONG….meaning not just for 1-3 weeks but over the LONG HAUL.
1. The Non Accuser Servant Major APOSTLE CHRIST, aka the MESSIAH of ISAIAH 11:2-3:
“And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;
And shall make Him of QUICK UNDERSTANDING IN THE FEAR OF THE LORD: and He shall NOT JUDGE after the sight of his eyes, neither REPROVE BASED ON WHAT HE HEARS:”
2. EACH OF THEM WILL (over the long haul) embody abiding JAMES 3:17 ministry, personal spiritual fruit: JAMES 3:17 “The wisdom that comes from above is first of all PURE, PEACEABLE, EASILY ENTREATED, FULL OF MERCY and GOOD FRUITS, without PARTIALITY and WITHOUT HYPOCRISY” (Implied meaning: Both out in a public setting as well as in private home, all relationships)
3. “Having JAMES 3:17 NO PARTIALITY” is also well known as “not tolerating a divisive, ego driven human or religious RESPECTER OF PERSONS SPIRIT.
HERE IS WHAT a “respecter of persons spirit” actually conveys, even PROJECTS (to the many others who will then perceive themselves as being LESS FAVORED, projected to as REJECTED, looked DOWN ON or not the leaders PET, IN CROWD, BIG I’s VS Little YOU’s. AND THIS is now apostolical RAMPANT in big segments of Grass Roots all knowing ministry leader CHRIST FOLLOWING due to errant leader accuser, elite, elevated 5 fold office pulpit Club engendering (very) many senior TV, Pop Worship Culture very strongly affected pioneering local(many otherwise GOOD) local ministries.
ACTS 10:34 “Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:”
4. THEY will NOT avoid, ignore all of the BIBLE RELATIONSHIP VALUING, INTERACTION, OTHERS RESPECTING BIBLE VERSES in place of All About ME, MINE and BLESS ME, US Popular Worship Culture leader elevated, sometimes elite Me Centered adulterated amongst some very GOOD leader doctrines:
REAL SELAH: AMONG SOME OF THE BIBLE VERSES which are notably MISSING:
1.RE READ ISAIAH 11:3 again, as it TIES DIRECTLY TO MATTHEW 18:15-18 BEING UP FRONT: Respectful,leader up front one to one, mature CONFRONTATION Matthew 18:15-18 “IF you SEE your brother, sister, mother in (suspected, valid) SIN (error?) THEN Bible Protocol leader demands that the Suspicious YOU must contact them to have a DIRECT, face to face, ONE TO ONE, respectful ONE ON ONE appointment. NOT sit back and speculate, tale bear and name names to make YOUR self/office seem to be MORE IMPORTANT, OR put it off due to being over WORKED and empathy free, TO NEGLECT respectful UP FRONT CONFRONTATION hallmarks ZERO OTHERS /ABIDING RELATIONSHIP “TRUE RESPECT” by the leader, minister, lay, family member.
** Again, PROVERBS 1:7 “The holy fear of the Lord”
- BOOK OF EPHESIANS: servant apostolic ministry 5 fold office cross ENTIRE DIVERSE WORLDWIDE LEADER BODY “unity” “all having Holy Spirit guided interactive,minus, devoid of WANNABE CELEBRITY and in EZEKIEL WHEEL CHAPTER 1 DIVINE APPOINTMENT mature relationship…
ALSO EPHESIANS 1:6 ALL “accepted in the beloved”
EPHESIANS 2:14 “He is our peace who has broken down every wall of partition to make us both one”
EPHESIANS 4 (read entire CROSS TRUE BODY 5 FOLD OFFICE COMMUNITY/IN UNITY entire CHAPTER)
EPHESIANS 5:21 “Mutual submission in the fear of the Lord” ( Church House, Family Dwelling)
6.APOSTOLIC CHRIST in all of his FAMILY, PERSONAl, MINISTRY LIFE RELATIONSHIPS: Peruse the GOSPELS Matthew, Mark, Luke and John: How did Jesus the Messiah INTERACT AMONG and TRULY RESPECT all types of human “Made in God’s own Image” PSALM 139 real Life PERSONS(men, women, Big Religious System Pharisees, His dear mother, all kinds of fallen, women, the roving demoniac, chief sinners, hungry seekers, high status, very low poor status, etc.
and appearing to be UNKNOWN MANY OTHERS..
7. BUT AFTER DOING THAT..please compare it to what is being emphasized TODAY by MODERN WORSHIP CULTURE adhered to DOCTRINES…(again, “ye shall know them by their SPIRITUAL FRUIT”)
8.AND THE BOTTOM DISCERNMENT ABIDING LINE: Will it reproduce solid JAMES 3:17, mature, abiding RELATIONSHIP ongoing PEACEFUL FRUIT or will it reproduce ACCUSER RESEMBLING /OTHER ALWAYS OVER SEER PHARISEE WATCHING, and /or KEEPING UP WITH THE MINISTRY JONESES supremely eternally discontented, spiritually divisive,fully fractured, rude fruit, which promotes competition, insecurity in chief apostolic leadership, and raises up Big I’s with many kow towing ministry, emotionally immature (wannabe, self seeking) highly aggressive BOANERGES-MINISTRY LEADERSHIP DIVAS.
9. AKA Reproducing many local FROM SUCH TURN AWAY ASSEMBLIES which resemble 2 TIMOTHY 3:1-5 admonition to all who are pure hearted and deeply authentic, TRUE:
2 TIMOTHY 3:1-5
“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: FROM SUCH TURN AWAY.”
10. ACHIEVING, DOING GOOD WORK, BEING IN PRODUCTIVE BUSINESS, GETTING “MY, OUR” MINISTRY ELEVATED TO THE NEXT LEVEL may, but may not be, “STRIVING” “CULTIVATING HUMAN PLEASING TO WIN FAVOR” OR CHRISTIAN MADISON AVENUE METHODS with end view of MINISTRY HUMAN SUCCESS without 1. any true discerning, reverential,abiding fear of the LIVING LORD 2. Ignoring, running past amid DEVALUING BIBLE RELATIONSHIPS ..which, all throughout the GOSPELS (read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) THE MESSIAH, JESUS CHRIST never once DID.
SO NOW: WHY is there a RUNNING AWAY amidst the long prophesied Last Days FALLING AWAY”
11. AND MISSING: Taking personal responsibility from the TOP LEADER on down to the lay family leader for submitting to COMMON PEACEFUL UNITY
**SEE PSALM 133: the oil of UNITY flows from the HEAD, and UNITY is where “God commands His blessing”
**SEE all the above EPHESIANS missing verses (above)
SEE about OLD TESTAMENT but also NEW requiring the ELDERS to humble themselves and pause and reflect, even repent for THEMSELVES and also to lead the TRUE CHURCH in ‘repenting” based on Bible principles of 2 CHRONICLES 7:14 “IF My people, who are called by My name, shall humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and HEAL THEIR LAND.”
**NOTE: DOES IT APPEAR THAT OUR “LAND” IS HEALED?…… Principle: Well, DUH!…
AND WHY, whereas the BIBLE plainly states that the purpose for GOD sending His Son JESUS was to “destroy the works of the devil: ending in DEATH” (Hebrews 2:14)…is there so much DARKNESS,DEATH, ACCUSATION, SIN, OPPRESSION in and outside of the born again Church…
SUBMITTING: DOES THE CHURCH NEED TO ONCE AGAIN SEEK GOD and RE-IDENTIFY, SELF EVALUATE IT’S APOSTOLIC (WORK PLANTING) ABIDING TRUE MISSION?MY MINISTRY CONCLUSION: if the TEMPLE HIGH PRIEST’S HEARTS are not fully right before the LORD, the same PSALM 133 “trickle down effect” will flow into the LAY, then out the DOOR where it AFFECTS, EFFECTS or AFFLICTS all the many diverse types of RELATIONSHIPS in MINISTRY, ALL FAMILIES as well as out in the ABIDING SECULAR REALM.
SUBMITTED AS A JAMES 3:17 RESPECTFUL OPEN ENDED BORN AGAIN TRUE CHURCH SELAH
AND FOR MORE SERVANT APOSTOLIC RELATED
..SCAN BACK THROUGH TAVEAU LEADER.COM http://www.taveauleader.com SEE deep ARCHIVES “The Compassion Fatigued Eli Temple High Priest Hood” “Obadiah” and WHAT IS WE ROMAN PATRICIANISM” and several more. (may be 2014)
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