ABOVE:A truly great REASON for HEBREWS 10:25 “fellowshipping with the (pure hearted, enduring JAMES 3:17 spiritual fruit) believers.
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WHAT FOLLOWS IS AN APOSTOLIC MINISTER SELAH in RESPECTFUL JAMES 3:17 SENIOR PIONEERING, NOBLE BEREAN NON FORMULA OPEN ENDED FORMAT
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ALSO (way way down) PAULINE VIEWS on “WOMEN BEING SILENT IN THE CHURCH”
FOREMOST: DISCUSSING HEBREWS 10:25 APOSTLE PAUL’S BIG COMMAND: “Do not forsake fellowshipping with the saints as some have…”)
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FAITH FILLED FELLOWSHIPPING WITH THE APOSTOLIC SAINTS ROOTS:
KEY BIBLE PRINCIPLES
1. When being “led by God’s Spirit” (Example like Ezekiel’s Wheel EZEKIEL Ch. 1), one must first submit to, yield to and comply/trust and obey the person of GOD. 2 KINGS 19:9 God communicates via “the still small voice” ALSO in NT His Holy Bible and the Holy Spirit;
IMPLIES: Every single person ought to hear from the Lord for THEMSELVES about WHERE to ATTEND and WHAT TYPE OF MINISTRY FELLOWSHIP to attend, as it is between GOD and THEM. 
THEN FOLLOWING ATTENDING, it is up to them and the LORD to JOIN or NOT TO JOIN officialy. IT is up to them and the LORD about HOW OFTEN to attend. AND while it is WISE, SAFE, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to maintaining FELLOWSHIP, it does not fall under the COMMON DOCTRINES of EPHESIANS 4, so hence NO LEGALISM, self justified ministry, well meaning lay ACCUSATION should be leveled at ANY PERSON who decides to ATTEND or NOT to fellowship, even JOIN.
THIS IS IFFM MINISTRIES LEADERSHIP VIEW ..but what now follows makes up MOST of the REST OF IT…
2. NEW TESTAMENT: While Hebrews 10:25 was commanded by Apostle Paul “Do not forsake fellowshipping with the saints as some have done,” Jesus Christ, while He was on this earth, and had just come apart from the Big Temple Mammon Chasing, albeit not big on PURE HEARTED ACCEPTING ALL RELATIONSHIPS..but it was rather akin to a compromising Big Church System….
…MEANING that the walking, talking, His Father submitted, “going about doing (all sorts of ) good” MESSIAH (Acts 10:38) was never recorded as setting up commands via His First Organic 12 chief apostolic senior ministers, to set Jesus’ patriarchs and matriarchs, any of the common people, into neat orderly, In One Type Of House “orderly neat rows.”
WHILE THAT CAME about later, while Chief Apostle’s Chief Messiah Apostle, Jesus Christ was here upon the Planet Earth, He removed both Himself and His senior apostolic big international (global) Work apart from the Big Religious Business Ministry Over Seer System, out onto the hillside.
ANOTHER POINT: When the angels came to announce the BIRTH of God’s Only Begotten Son, the SAVIOR…whom did the angels pay a respectful visit to: The Overseer Pharisees in the Big Religious System OR the humble, discerning SHEPHERDS apart upon the (to the Pharisee Big System, surely deemed very LOWLY) HILLSIDE?
- AS THE FIRST PIONEERING CHURCH started, it was loose, as their was NO “Pastor, leader forefathers” to conveniently author TEN STEPS TO MAKING A BRAND NEW FELLOWSHIP” Training manuals. ALSO there was NO NEW TESTAMENT…only “designated Organic First Church Twelve Chief Apostles “fasting and praying, tarrying, waiting on the LORD for apostolic HEVVY REVVY.
4. DURING THE BIRTH of the FIRST “ORGANIC” New Testament JEWS + (everybody else) GENTILES Fellowships..due to the small amounts (RIGHT AT THE VERY FIRST) the IN HOUSE “fellowship of True Believers” first met in clusters, in cells and in HOUSES..AND as the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST had not yet fallen into divise controversy in the TEMPLE AREA..of course many of the Christ accepting, seeker, way curious HEBREWS chatted and discussed, made decisions about THE servant apostolic MESSIAH SAVIOR JESUS as they visited around the temple complex.
FOLLOWING the ACTS 2 Upper Room outpouring, many many more area persons accepted Jesus Christ and the numbers of Christian born again believers then boomed. And as they tiny segment of the area population grew, so did the controversy and suspicion, but also did the numbers of accepting BELIEVERS begin to grow, thus introducing now a new ongoing need for FELLOWSHIPPING HOUSES, QUARTERS large enough to host all of the many newly born again, needing leader equipping FIRST ATTENDING (ever) (non suspicious) Church saints
ACTS 5:42 AMPLIFIED BIBLE: Yet [in spite of the threats] they never ceased for a single day, both in the temple area and at home, to teach and to proclaim the good news (Gospel) of Jesus [as] the Christ (the Messiah).
THEN MUCH LATER, after Messiah, Jesus Christ’s cruel death, then victorious RESURRECTION, and persecuted PAUL now duly born again and called to CHIEF APOSTOLIC SENIOR MINISTRY….and all of this following JESUS BURIAL, OVERCOMING RESURRECTION, and CHRIST leaving the First rough hewn spiritually chaotic evolving leadership, church with “PRAYER AND FASTING” in order to get REVELATION, SPIRITUAL DOWNLOADS on what to DO with ALL OF THOSE NEW PEOPLE, HOW to make UNITY, not have DIVISION and also set up (very) basic SPIRITUAL, NATURAL, NON LEVITICAL,(ongoing) future thinking, IN HOUSE KEEPING KEEPING.
TIMES:
1. Jesus Christ lives among, leader imparts and equips, hero Role Models each one of the five fold offices directly infant of His Organic First Church 12 Senior Apostles. (BUT ONLY for 3 years)
2. FOLLOWING JESUS burial, resurrection APOSTLE PAUL gets truly saved and on FIRE FOR THE RISEN HOLY LORD. Paul then attempts to “co-labor” among the FIRST 12 JESUS HAND PICKED, INDIVIDUALLY MENTORED First 12 Chief Apostles.
3. HOWEVER, PAUL had been a former persecutor, murderer of much of the young organic First House to House non legalistic CHURCH..so as PAUL went to try to work with, meet up with PETER and BARNABAS, following only two weeks, He was apparently rejected and thus went to dwell, abide in “ARABIA” for about 13-14 years.**
(**Imagine the spiritual warfare, the need for Paul to mature having NO “Spiritual leaders” to iron sharpens iron among, to have NO NEW TESTAMENT but needing to fully learn about the LORD, the HOLY SPIRIT and how to GOVERN the NEW BUDDING COMPLEX, VERY MULTICULTURAL, MUTLI DIVERSE FIRST CHURCH…all ALONE as before THE AUDIENCE OF ONE HOLY ONE.’
AND after pioneering CHIEF APOSTLE PAUL went back down to JERUSALEM, God ended up using the infamous unknown, insignificant PAUL to pen two thirds of the NEW TESTAMENT..including removing the OLD TESTAMENT LEVITICAL LAW out of the FIRST CHURCH, inadverently preaching LIBERTY to the SLAVES to the LAW or to FALSE IDOLATRY, PATRIARCHAL PERSONAL LEADER RULING AUTHORITY, and doing away with RACIAL, RELIGIOUS, even GENDER PREJUDICES, which were forever creating DIVISION among the formerly pagan, into deep idolatry GENTILES, Rules Conscious JEWS…plus the New Testament hypocritical/overly rules conscious, position/power loving religious system PHARISEES..
EXAMPLES:
“He is our peace, who has broken down every wall of partition, to make us both one.” PAUL in EPHESIANS 2:14
“I resolved not to know anything about anyone, except CHRIST and Him crucified.” PAUL in I CORINTHIANS 2:2
“When you put on Christ, there is no male, female, Greek or Jew, bond or free.” APOSTLE PAUL in GALATIANS 3:28
**NOTE: Ever since this woman writer was YOUNG, she always heard ministry scuttlebutt concerning “Let the women be silent in the Church.” *NOT every once among her Southern Baptist senior pastor parents..but out across (seeming to be many) segments of the Christian True Body.
THUS she now adds her apostolic servant ministry SELAH:
WAS APOSTLE PAUL’S COMMENT RE “LET THE WOMEN REMAIN SILENT IN THE CHURCH” MORE STRATEGIC, DUE TO THE TIME OF EMERGENCY TO GET PEOPLE COMMITTED, KNOWLEDGEABLE. OPEN ENDED SUBMITTED SELAH.
THE APOSTOLIC WRITER’S REASONING:
WAY BACK THEN the Church was newly formed. It was very very small. It was outnumbered by the vast population of HUMANS who had for many prior GENERATIONS been reared, STEEPED in Old Testmant Levitical (judging by RULES based) legalistic LAW. The GENTILES had been raised with patronizing, even oppressive, sometimes sinister domination /use of, meaning ENSLAVING, performing sexually idolatrous, unclean rituals, human sacrifices, etc …
…..SO THAT…when JESUS CHRIST came to preach the GOOD NEWS, then pioneered the CHURCH and called for the FIRST 12 (non legalistic, NON FORMULA using senior ministry offices) God had to work PRACTICALLY and TACTICALLY due to the SHEER GIANT NUMBERS OF ALL KINDS OF HUMANS as compared to the tiny, organic, fledgling apostolic Church.
(Meaning SURELY..)
GOD understood that as apostolic TIME marched on, HE would download supernatural leader WISDOM, specific DIRECTION, and ongoing servant apostolic REVELATION which then LATER would harness the FALLEN HUMAN predisposition to pride, vanity, lust..and seeking it’s own human methods and mayhem.
EPHESIANS 5:21 Body Wide, Ministry/Family: “Submit yourselves to one another in the fear of the Lord.
NOTE: Later this non women’s libber author will go LINE UPON LINE covering from GENESIS 1 onward, to step by step show WHY there ought to be NO BIGOTRY, viewing God’s WOMEN as Second Class dimwitted CITIZENS and citing God’s call upon Prophetess DEBORAH, including discussions on HEADSHIP VS COVERING and REAL RESPECT FOR THE OFFICE OF EVERY HUMAN BEING MADE IN GOD’S IMAGE. (PSALM 139)
WESTERN EUROPEAN PATRIARCHAL LEVITICAL ROOTS, including ROMAN PATRICIANISM, which inflicts, affects, MUCH of JESUS born again (which out to be SAFE) Houses.
BUT FOR TODAY: The writer suspects that while the PRIOR GENERATIONS of Pre New Testament FEMALES had been HISTORICALLY held back, even suppressed due to the LEGALISTM, CHATTLE, SLAVE Hebrew, purely Gentile customs… but then THE FATHER GOD understanding that in order to bring about THE BIG CHANGE in a VAST AMOUNTS of HUMANS would take much TIME, be systematic, patient, THOROUGH and this would mean BABY STEPS…
….in order to reach entire FAMILIES, the DIVINE SET ORDER would be REACH THE HEADS OF EACH FAMILY, and all business, temple LEADERSHIP..which way back then was ENTIRELY HUMAN DIVERSE MALE.
Following divine INSTRUCTION, more revelation regarding FIRST and LATER ON FIRST CHURCH, along with HOLY SPIRIT instruction, Bible now being in written FORM..plus APOSTLE PAUL’S OWN WORDS being accepted (and eventually WELL BELOVED) in the Holy Bible CANON… we can see that MANY MORE hot subjects, would also be REVEALED to each of the many following TRUE CHURCH ministry generations.
NOW…IN THIS GENERATION, while the writer observes much NT FREEDOM in many of the ministry groups who move in the gift of the Spirit, spirit of prophecy, deep worship, when it comes to the topic of ministry GENDERS, hero roles of OFFICES, she has repeatedly encountered the religious spirit of OLD TESTAMENT WHITE PATRIARCHAL, LEVITICAL LEGALISM intermixed with MUCH GOOD Holy Spirit JESUS FREEDOM.
Hence, God has called her to NOBLE BEREAN apostolic leader doctrines to see 1. HER OWN IS BIBLE ORGANIC 2. IF OTHER LEADERS who strongly affect a LOCAL REGIONAL APOSTOLIC PORTRAIT OF “Christ following” “Hebrews 10:25 House to House Fellowshipping with the saints” and either abiding JAMES 3:17 spiritual fruit vs “From Such Turn Away” 2 Timothy 3:1-5 accuser, legalistic fruit.
TO THE ONES WORRIED: Know ye this, that while the writer was NEVER ONCE an advocate of Women’s Liberation, in deep respectful hindsight, she now understands that both SHE and HER BELOVED SISTER were raised NOT BACK UNDER OLD TESTAMENT LEVITICAL LAW. And neither were both of her grandmothers…so therefore the SHE was RAISED totally FREE and given the BLESSING to “do and become whatever GOD tells YOU to do and to become.”
SO I bless and honor my dear departed Sr Pastor FATHER and my (now approaching 91 year old dear MOTHER.) **WHO ALSO embodied Ministry and Marriage “submitted to one another in the fear of the Lord” Book of Ephesians 15:21
SECOND: In the apostolic Book of Matthew 23, JESUS says (using RED LETTERS) that NOBODY is to call any other human being FATHER. “there is only one Father: GOD” He really reams out the Old Testament Pharisees in a VERY NON PC, out in PUBLIC, brutally frank, up front akin to a LEADER TED’S TALK…
THIRD: Repeat NOWHERE during CHRIST’S MINISTRY on earth, did HE ever organize the Church in a FORMAL, LEVITICAL, RULES BASED, OVERLY STRUCTURED, HIERARCHAL pioneering ministry leader FASHION. Not that came later, and is now widely accepted in the USA today.
RATHER the FIRST CHURCH was HOLY SPIRIT DIRECTED, as it emphasized ALL RELATIONSHIPS…FIRST LOVE with the LORD GOD HIMSELF and then “Love your neighbor as you love yourself” APART from LEVITICAL JUDGMENTAL, APOSTOLIC HIERARCHAL LEADERS OVERSEER WATCHING EVERYBODY ELSE, namby pamby LAW.
It was only after CHURCH GROWTH (following JESUS departing to HEAVEN) when APOSTLE PAUl then first commanded HEBREWS 10:25 “do not forsake fellowshipping with the saints”…yet nowhere does Apostle Paul mean in OLD TESTAMENT LEGALISTICALLY.
ALSO, due to the INCREASING BIG NUMBERS OF NEWLY “YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN” HUMANS, and the need for KNOWING that there is enormous SAFETY IN NUMBERS, but also THE CORPORATE HOLY SPIRIT ANOINTING grows DEEPER in a large crowd, plus there is UNIFIED COMMUNITY, friends, family like, recreational, encouraging, equipping SIDE FRUIT. (FOR SPIRITUAL GRINS: READ ALL OF EPHESIANS 4.
PLEASE NOTE 1. There is strong emphasis on ABIDING, ENDURING Cross Entire born again BODY…RELATIONSHIPS
2. APOSTLE PAUL teaches there is to be COMMONLY AGREED TO “BIBLE COMMON LEADER DOCTRINE” which is 1. One Lord 2. One Faith 3. One Baptism 4. One the Father of us all.
3. EPHESIANS 4 teaches each person yield to specifically said “ BIBLE COMMON DOCTRINE” which the bold writer refers to as FIRST TIER CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE.
MEANING SECOND TIER LEVEL BIBLE DOCTRINE are any other DOCTRINES are ministry, leader, lay SUBJECTIVE to what a person hears (discerns, accurately perceives ) as coming from the Lord.AND which is Noble Berean Bible studied, to confirm if it is IN THE BIBLE and in ALIGN WITH All OTHER BIBLE SCRIPTURE.
As the IFFM Founder views this, these 2nd TIER DOCTRINES would be 1) kind, style of Church 2) required dress code 3) roles of leader men, leader women 4) spiritual authority In House required rules 5) decide whether to still abide under OT LAW in the NT current Times… or NOT 6) moving in the gifts of the Spirit born not 7) about divorce 8) music worship styles 8) chosen day, length of worship service AND ANY OTHER.
THE WRITER also has long observed that when the ACCUSER arises, CRITICAL SPIRIT, comes..it comes based primarily on persons who keep their minds on fellow Christian /ministers BUSINESS and tale bear, accuse, attack regarding various SECOND TIER DOCTRINES. (This is big in grass roots!)
THus, clearing this up way down at the local grass roots levels will help heal, bring back and make ABIDING JAMES 3:7 NON ACCUSER , more emotionally safe, enduring Hebrews 10:25 “Fellowshipping with (some of these) saints.”
IN LIGHT OF SECOND TIER LEADER /LAY (Non legalistic) DOCTRINES:
1. This teaching appears to be in line with the APOSTLE PAUL’S in the NT Bible command to “Work out your own salvation.”(Phillipians 2:12) (in mature fellowship, yet individually apart with the Lord in a First Love on going faith filled Relationship)
2. AND WHETHER or NOT the Top Minister, Elder, Pioneering Chief Apostle abides by all of that or not..due to the USA GRASS ROOTS innate legalism, TV MEDIA now affected nonservant big WANNABEISM, plus the “being promoted in MY OWN SENIOR LEADERSHIP” being primarily big in Big Business, Power, Position and World Wide Fame among “ye must be born again” world famous Circles…one must now attempt to DISCERN, NOBLE BEREAN noncritically EVALUATE yet freely “JUDGE THEM BY THEIR SPIRITUAL FRUITS” which is biased, all knowing and NOT given to JAMES 3:17 servant real leadership whenever crossed, meaning if the things that THEY want, would rather have are NOT permitted to them.
OPEN ENDED “ONLY IF THE SHOE REALLY FITS, ONLY THEN SHOULD YOU WEAR IT” OFFICE TYPE OF SELAH.
STEM WINDER ATTEMPT AT CLOSING: Yet the writer urges that each must ask God’s help in revealing WHAT is PUTTING SELF, OTHER BACK UNDER THE OLD TESTAMENT PERFORMANCE, LAW VS New Testament JESUS non Levitical Law non Class Conscious FREEDOM.
PS SOON the nonauspcious leader writer will attempt to outline OT GEN RELATOINSHIPS to show why NO GENDER BIAS, RACISM, should ever be present /accepted, tolerated in present day MODERN “ye must be born again , sold out, CHRISTIAN ministry”….and HOW this can be a STARK GOOD CONTRAST to any others…(for the same ongoing purposes, the IFFM “self government” tried and true leader doctrines)
“When the SON set you FREE you are free INDEED!” JOHN 8:36
Surely much more to come at later moment in appointed Time.
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