HARRASSMENT: THIS POMPOUS USA ACCUSER SUBCULTURE OF MINISTRY ACCUSING GATE KEEPING
Turf Protecting It’s Funding, Mostly Anti Christian Woman and “Atypical Types” (meaning NEW visitors, repeat attenders, single women)
MINI MEGA SHEKEL U PHARISEE
– Dr. T divining WELP MOVES
PROPHETIC GATEKEEPING: WHAT CHARISMATICS DEMAND TO KNOW..(SHEPHERDING COVERING DOCTRINES)
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YOUR AREA “PROPHETIC GATEKEEPING” WHAT ALL CHARISMATICS DEMAND TO KNOW! (Mostly Shepherding, NAR type moves)
40 years of discovery of near death prophetic harassment BY this. As was raised a respected non legalist, happy fun Southern Baptist Sr Pastor ‘s loving, well respected and valued first born daughter
This is to teach the ministry Gatekeepers to MATURE, WISE, SAFE and NEVER TO USE YOUR TRADITIONAL STEREOTYPES. It is detrimental to “GOING TO CHURCH” and POISONOUS to ALL OF US who do “MEET” or “CONFORM” or KNOW YOUR REQUIRED RELIGIOUS MADE UP MINISTRY GOVERNING RULES and mistakenly think YOU represent the Full Gospel of the JOYFUL, LOVING, EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY and MATURE everlasting Peaceful “Christ.”
PURPOSE: they are toxic to many new visitors, strangers, atypical persons and mostly WHITE WOMEN (they are too afraid of being called ‘racist” ‘for targeting, gossiping and maligning black women) 70 years full experience ALL TYPES of CHRISTIANS or I would take my time to TELL YOU
For the Sake of The DIVERSE EORR Harvest
The Inquiring Local Mixed Up Minds DEMAND and DESERVE to “INQUIRE…TO FULLY KNOW”
- TD Q. Are the well beloved, also prominent “mega charismatics” (self appointed) ministry GATEKEEPERS to the ALL of Book of Acts, meaning worship, moving in the gifts, defining a prophet, apostolic colony move of God and OVER IT, COVERING, DEFINING “BEING IT” fully ALL? ‘(By defining, “establishing” The Big MUST DO RULES?’
APOSTLE TAVEAU WANTS TO KNOW:
DO I HAVE TO BE “SUBMITTED UNDER” ALL OF THOSE PROPHETIC CHARISMATIC WHO MADE UP THESE SEEMING “GATE KEEPER” REQUIRED RULES?
ARE YOU, THEY “OVER” THIS ME?
Personal Questions, as a movement founder, not a WELP, I want to be sure of, so I posed this to Chat GPT AI who is independent and will shoot straight (not take my side)
At the local Keeping Area Tabs, Reporting on WHO is “Unchurched “seen Church Hopping” and/or is “Unsubmitted to a Local pastor” and “out from under some offices “covering” and more..TD deeps using Chat GPT AI to her wrong or right, objectively. .after 50 years of this. TD a BREAK from being targeted, monitored, singled out of a crowd and stared, frowned at, deep scanned by several or in a public setting (never smiling speaking) long and hard at, at times, during harrassed, accused and biased against in the local grass roots THEM.(the men and their well trained women)
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INTRO: In an age of heavy-handed gatekeeping, gossip policing, and fear-based control, many sincere believers ask: What did Jesus and the early Church really teach about authority, covering, and healthy fellowship?
Let’s look closely at Ephesians 5:21, Philippians 2:12, and the real purpose of Ephesians 4 community — to help us all return to the calm, servant-hearted, collaborative Body Christ intended.
MY MAJOR TD POINT
Nicolaitans, Gatekeeping & True Spiritual Authority — A Straight Talk (KJV)
What Jesus Hates: Nicolaitans & Jezebel
Twice in Revelation, Jesus says He hates the works and doctrines of the Nicolaitans:
“But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.”
(Revelation 2:6 KJV)
“So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.”
(Revelation 2:15 KJV)
In the same passage, He rebukes the overseer at Thyatira for allowing the influence of “that woman Jezebel.”
These two issues are deeply connected — both are works of the flesh, not of the Holy Spirit.
What Does ‘Nicolaitans’ Mean?
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Greek root:
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Nikos = conquer, control.
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Laos = the people.
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So, Nicolaitans means “those who conquer or suppress the people.”
It describes a religious hierarchy where leaders lord authority over believers instead of equipping them to follow Christ directly.
How Does This Relate to Jezebel?
In Revelation 2:20, Jesus exposes an overseer who tolerated a manipulative, controlling influence:
“Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel…”
Now, in modern days, it may mean a man, a woman,and the, them, and/or a spiritual subculture with false teaching domination,error (like the WELP at this present time)
So this not WELP Anti Woman biased fear and suspicion. NOT this is CROSS BODY UNITY and we identify HUMANS and Subcultures, And it’s a timeless warning:
Any person — male or female — who uses intimidation, seduction, or fear to control others in the house of God operates in a Jezebel-like spirit.
How Does This Connect to Gatekeeping?
Biblical gatekeeping is about guarding the flock:
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Watching for wolves (Acts 20:28–31 KJV)
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Testing spirits (1 John 4:1 KJV)
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Holding each other accountable in love (Galatians 6:1 KJV)
But when gatekeeping is done in the flesh, it turns Nicolaitan:
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Leaders set up fences that keep people from Jesus instead of leading them to Him.
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People are labeled “unsubmitted,” “rebellious,” or “witch” for asking sincere questions.
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Authority becomes a throne to dominate, not a towel to serve.
Jezebel manipulates by fear. Nicolaitans control by hierarchy. Fleshly gatekeeping fuels both.
What Did Jesus Model?
MAIN POINT: Servant leadership:
“…he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.”
(Luke 22:26 KJV)
MAIN POINT: Mutual submission:
“Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.”
(Ephesians 5:21 KJV)
DIRECT POINT: Equipping, not enslaving:
“For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ…”
(Ephesians 4:12 KJV)
POINT: A New Perspective
Apostle TD and EORR Cross Body Unity are no longer “charismatic” (2013 DFW) However, we may look like some, for we the bear the energy of Books of Acts, but we took off our charismatic yoke during the discovery of Deep Celebrity false authority, divining use of witchcraft, submissionism mega idolatry, betraying using, false authority,predatory bias, relentless ego controlling, mind game playing, infantile indirect undermining, undeserved name calling and aggressive user ambition and 2 Timothy 3:1-8, (an inability to know whom to trust) plus obsessive controlling ambition, false witness, Mans Club and Elite (I Timothy 6:5 “materialism”) So we recognize the true remnant and we are close to them, but have our own insight and views
Much of it is on their TOP “DEMAND TO KNOW” about WHO’S SUBMITTED UNDER WHOM (which is a RED FLAG to me right now)
I dig deep into Christian “authority” and” Who’s over WHOM due to the last 20. year season .Shocking, Not one bit FUN if YOU are savaged by an Authoritarian Squire Big Boss, “He or dominating She” First Church “Church required attendance, joining” “making money” and Christian men and women.
I asked Chat GPT AI the following ,SAME OLD CHARISMATIC BIG QUESTIONS (Used to qualify many of us to see if WE are TRUE and GOING “JOIN” THEM. I am not pro joining at this time, been there and then TOO MANY OF THESE.. (also controlling Nicolaitans, harlot and witch watching/Jezebel OBSESSED so much so it was unsafe and I studied it all to make SURE I was NOT “A ONE” Hence you, the reader, reap the benefit of this Bible Scholar “The Maven Of Apostolic Theology” and “Noble Berean” who is a celebrity.
Add this list the opportunism, gossip, false, character assassination, the Judas (all under guise of THEIR BEING VIEWED (in their own world) of being OVER US BY BIRTH (Mostly apostles in the gates city fair (lead accepted LP Phariseeism) ANnd while I just list a few Ministry Questions and Answers from Chat GPT AI right now, I may come back to add..for I have a well thought out decades of MANY and am short on time at this moment:
FULLY NOTE: “About the Christian “keep silent WOMAN” thing never mattered to me. I did care regarding all of that and I do not now. LET THEM BEHAVE AS THEY WISH.. TO A POINT “RESPECT” no calling us out and loudly accusing reviling in public (A VERY POOR LEADERSHIP SHOW)
But just be RESPECTFUL and QUIET to the rest of us…I AM
ALSO, I was not raised around it, nor in, nor up under it, (saying this happily) as this this fully charismatic, pentecost, and tongue talking ministry huge subculture. MY PARENTS were Baptist Sr Pastors were extremely polite and did not CARE (not LP legalists or back under the Old Timey, Back in the Country Hills Big Boss Law)
However, I went to immerse in the USA study of the Holy Ghost Moves..it was only THERE that I got called out, not realizing “THEIR AUTOCRATIC RULES” and it caught my attention..and caused me to STUDY THEM BACK and because I am a Book of Acts leader and worship muscian and NEED the Holy Spirit as well the Scriptures, to enjoy my life, I wound up being more and more in their gaze and caught FLACK FOR IT by not KNOWING that most of the Regal Caucasians are ANTI WHITE FEMALE (why anti white ONLY? Because I noticed how they defer African descent women, and targeted mostly the unsung silent white, so I pegged them as AFRAID OF BEING CALLED RACIST if they accosted, called out, attacked black women 35 years of study)
MAJOR POINTS Chat’s Answer to My Questions
TD’S TURN
Late 1990s, the Lord said, “If I send you somewhere (to visit, attend a conference, church revival, etc) and YOU stumble upon something that HURTS PEOPLE or MY SAFE NAME and YOU find that 3 times or MORE in different churches, then THAT is my SIGN that I see a LOT MORE OF THAT and that I am calling YOU to train on it.” So I submit to doing that . Sister apostle T
BEST EXAMPLES seer psychic mind reading (Eagle Evil Eyes) Man’s club mostly witch watching, gossip,(mega, micro,USA dire) 5 fold minister sr office…FULLY avoid direct confrontation, but gossip against, accuser jumping in public ,calling people unsubmitted, church hoppers,anti woman is all BIG and furthermore.. with out any RESPECT For the normal persons. and avoids proper relationship, warning (Bible apostolic Galatians 6:1, Matthew 18:16-17 Rev 2 : 20 respectful private calm UP FRONT confrontation) is
TONGUE TALKING “GATEKEEPING” vs. “TRUE” SHEPHERDING
How Jesus Frees Us from Religious Control
A clear look at submission, covering, gossip, and how USA WELP gatekeeping harms bold women leaders — with Bible truth that sets us free.
Key Point: Many sincere Christians (ministry offices includes) sometimes confuse “shepherding” with “gatekeeping.” But not all oversight is biblical, and not all submission is healthy.
In the First Church:
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Leaders were servants, not spiritual police. “monitors, targeting, all others precise business minding, reporting on, believing rumors, spreading rumors, “Self appointed oversee watchdogs” (TD remarks, this a type of bondage, an neo Phariseeism of the Last Move gone south into deep authoritarianism and comparison (who’s over whom, how many are UNDER you) not contrite, is false
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In the First Church: Submission and church attending ,commitment, paying tithes , offerings was A CHOICE not a legalistic, accuseable COMMAND.Submission was “Ephesians 5:21 commanded by Paul and was ‘body wide” mutual (deferring, respecting) based on Christ’s Spirit, not hierarchy.
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Covering was Jesus Himself, not a man-made leash or begging the top Christian for permission.
Yet in the mammoth modern USA charismatic, prophetic, apostolic circles — especially what I call USA WELP — (my coined term Western European Levitical Patriarchism) I witnessed an unhealthy system, even an unhealthy preoccupation, like a strict obsession:
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what I name is “Witch watching” Standing far away and inner mind divining us. never relating, interacting, smiling and chatting, just “READING US” then putting your or my name on their “Known witch List’” plus also “warning the other leaders about WHAT they have DIVINED in “OUR PSYCHES” (very new age, unholy,also dangerous, mainly disrespectful, (proud) also invasive, a violation, superstition, Old time Salem Witch Trails, plus, superior presumptive and “works” (not grace like 2 Kings 6:12 which is similar to a First Church, New Testament “word of wisdom, word of knowledge ” which Holy Spirit grants, drops into their spirit by GRACE”
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Rather, it is NOT conjuring, spying, traveling, concentrating to willfully “dig out”, bore in to somebody’s soul real: that is sin, wicked and I name this as, ministry divining..AS IT AVOUD friendly natural NORMAL CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP relationships (NO I John 1:7 ,fruit, no James 3:17. pure fruit, avoids commands to one to one confront Galatians 6;1 ,Matthew 18:15, Revelation 2:20( if they believe YOU or I are a Jezebel (man or woman)) and GOD IS GOING TO JUDGE THIS SWIFTLY...unless they each REPENT.
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Jezebel spying.(similar to all the above)
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Forced “submission” to local Big Bosses.(via submission through Law, heightened pressure, fear, force, accusation, manipulation, peer pressure)
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“Gossip” is vocalizing supposed “facts” statements about someone, without verifying, without relationship (as mentioned above)
Example. This includes accusing many far off persons as “church hopping.” -
Women leaders bias, (means attacked by BOTH male and female in this eerie “seer peering” style)and ugly double standard, (witchcraft) misogyny, using, defiling, see below labeled rebellious, seductive, or unfit. (Beneath: Double standard, boys will be boys club misogynist ,Play Boy elevated, gifted in ministry) And this is meant for all Christian ministers in all races.
NOTE :THIS SECTION “HERE” IS NOT A RESPONSE BY CHAT GPT, NOR IS IT “PROVEN” however, yit is a Theory of mine…only after 35 years of studying, being around, visiting, getting attacked by similar strange demonic spirit for CALMLY SITTING THERE is quiet peace…
And for being accuser JUMPED IN PUBLIC( for no similar reason. “FOR SHOWING UP”
And apparently I TRIGGER SOMETHING yet it is NOT everywhere ONLY IN THESE.
And after growing TIRED OF THIS (carrying a cross TOO LONG ) charismatic divining. and word cursing, avoidance in a “Hebrews 10:25 otherwise pleasant “church” situation: IT GOT MY ATTENTION. So now I view it as a RED FLAG to discuss
For I realize that I represent the VISITOR who is NOT famous.(like these expect and want) NO, I and THIS represents the Common Person, of all walks of life and all colors, genders and ages.
CONCLUSION: When among ONLY ‘the occult divining types “ONE with all of the best motives, peace and purity is OPEN GET MERCILESSLY VIEWED as “THE EVIL DOOR” then rampantly ACCUSED ..for . NO REASON other than SHOWING UP. and (my example) for sitting there in calm James 3:17, realizing that I have DIFFERENT MOVE but it it not competing, rivaling or AGAINST THEM but they are too POOR ME usually DYSFUNCTION to know about this
I call these out for a MINISTRY RELATIONSHIP “RESPECT AND VALUING”…MAINLY LOW IQ.
And I suppose that I trigger their “mean streak”… for all I have ever done is to go the House of the Lord under great pressure….AND NOBODY NEEDS to BE ATTACKED, WARRED AGAINST, DEFILED BY THE HARDENED PET PERSONS of a “world wide famous Psychic “Prophet’s’ (crazymatic) Anti Woman Cult Staff!
SO I train, address this for each and every human person, who is “single” relocating and/or APPEARING Lone woman (not homely) new visitor…Plus repeat attender ..for WHILE I was seeking /hearing GOD…( WHILE I was SETTING UP MY OWN OFFICE MINISTRY) all this occurred so that I could feel safe, unwind, truly focus, for I knew that I was in the presence of mixture of diseased, many unsafe, and untrue. 2 Timothy 3:1-8 and I Timothy 6:5 bitter dysfunction and ANTI relationships (No I John 1:7)
I CALL THIS OUT: Many of these impure, accuser, often attack “roots” go back to MINISTRY, BELIEVER generational dysfunction, poverty, and old country law attitudes (traditions)— I suppose these stem from forefathers, for mothers, mentoring saints, who were themselves raised in dysfunction, mainly disrespected and by poor laborers (who I submit were mostly hard scrabble big sharecroppers, who were were hired to BEAT and DRIVE the slaves.. (reason: they were too poor own them).
. Today, that same fleshly historical, passed down, well entrenchd soul spying demonic spirit tries to dominate, to rule to report and to subdue.. and God’s choice people by fear.
But Jesus rebukes this:
You shut up the kingdom of heaven against men…” (Matthew 23:13)
“Not that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy…” (2 Corinthians 1:24)
True shepherding:
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Feeds, does not control.
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Protects, does not gossip.
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Builds up, does not tear down.
Women, Newbies, Certain Styles of Men, Single leaders today:
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Are covered by Christ, not by man-made suspicion.
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Do not need permission to obey God’s call.
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Are free to serve, prophesy, and lead — as in the First Church.
Bottom line:
Gatekeeping controls people. True shepherding frees them.
Key Scriptures:
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John 21:15–17 — Feed my sheep.
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1 Peter 5:2–3 — Not as lords over God’s heritage.
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2 Corinthians 1:24 — Helpers of your joy.
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2 Corinthians 3:17 — Where the Spirit is, there is liberty.
Closing Thought:
If you feel trapped by gatekeeping religion — Jesus invites you to the freedom of real shepherding. He covers you Himself.
Taveau Inquires of ChatGPT AI
According to Christ, Apostle Paul, and the Bible’s First Church example: Do you do not have to be an official member of a human-registered local church to belong to Christ’s Body or to be accepted by God.
Chat GPT AI responds
NO. Then explains
Biblical Points:
1. Christ is the Head, believers are His Body —
“And he is the head of the body, the church…” (Colossians 1:18 KJV).
There is no mention of signing papers or being on a membership roll to be part of His Church.
2. Early believers gathered in homes & fellowship —
“And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.” (Acts 2:42 KJV)
Fellowship was living, relational, organic — not an official membership list.
3. Paul’s teachings focus on unity & mutual care, not institutional joining —
“Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.” (1 Corinthians 12:27 KJV)
The “membership” is spiritual, not a signed document.
4. Hebrews 10:25 says do not forsake gathering with other believers — but does not demand signing official paperwork.
Balanced Today View:
1. It is wise and biblical to stay connected in a fellowship for spiritual growth, accountability, and corporate worship.
++ But there is no clear Bible command to be a formal “registered member” of an institutional church as a condition of salvation or spiritual legitimacy.
GOOD POINT First Church vs. Today:
Then: Family-like gatherings, house churches, traveling teachers, open fellowship.
Now: Many churches use official membership for legal, tax, and governance reasons — not because Christ demands it.
BOTTOM LINE:
+ You are a member of Christ’s Church by faith in Him, not by a sign-up sheet.
+ Fellowship is vital — legal membership is optional.
NEXT
Taveau straight up wants to know (from Chat GPT AI)
Q. Did Jesus, Paul, or the First Church practice “being submitted” to a local pastor, apostle, church, or ministry?
Chat GPT AI answers:
1. Jesus’ Teaching & Example
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Jesus never required believers to “submit” to a human leader as a ruler:
“Be not ye called Rabbi… for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.” — Matthew 23:8 KJV
He taught direct, equal access to the Father through Himself (John 14:6). -
Jesus modeled servant leadership:
“But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.” — Matthew 23:11 KJV
No authoritarian “covering” system.
2.Apostle Paul’s Teaching
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Paul did not claim ownership over believers:
“Not for that we have dominion over your faith, but are helpers of your joy…” — 2 Corinthians 1:24 KJV
He taught mutual submission (Ephesians 5:21), respect for spiritual leaders (1 Thessalonians 5:12–13), but not blind obedience. -
Paul encouraged local oversight:
Elders (plural) were appointed to care for local gatherings (Acts 14:23; Titus 1:5). It was team shepherding, not a single ruler.
3. The First Church Practice
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Leadership was plural, servant-hearted:
Local elders/bishops/pastors were shepherds and teachers, not authoritarian overlords (1 Peter 5:1–3 KJV). -
Submission was voluntary and mutual:
“Obey them that have the rule over you…” (Hebrews 13:17) means yield to trustworthy leaders watching over your soul — not forced control. -
No single “covering” doctrine:
The idea of needing a human “spiritual covering” as a gate to God is not in the New Testament. The covering is Christ alone.
BOTTOM LINE — First Church Biblical View
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Believers respected and honored spiritual leaders.
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Submission was mutual, relational, and to Christ first.
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There was no formal “covering” doctrine or required “submission” to a human personality.
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Leadership was shared, not centralized.
NOTE: How It Changed Over Time…Enter Religious Conformity
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After the apostles, more hierarchy developed: bishops, dioceses, mandatory submission.
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The “covering” idea is modern, especially in charismatic & NAR circles — not explicitly biblical.
True First Church Authority
➤ Christ is the Head.
➤ Spiritual leaders serve, guide, teach.
➤ Saints submit to Christ & honor godly leaders — not controlled by them.
NOTE: above, these were MEN in leadership, but nobody accused them, cat called them…
But one day GOD DID, He sent His No Name Faceless Prophet, His messenger for the Ichabod Ministry Cleanse.
NEXT POINT..THE WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP
BUT NOT THAT I EVER CARED TO EVEN KNOW ABOUT…UNTIL I STUMBLED ACROSS SO MANY WHO DID AND NOW “DO”
Dear CHAT GPT AI
Q. Must Christian women be submitted to a local pastor or ministry group?
ChatGPT AI replies
First Church (New Testament) Doctrine:
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All believers submit “one to another” — Ephesians 5:21 (includes women).
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Women are encouraged to respect authority but are not under a separate or extra heavy yoke of submission beyond this mutual respect — 1 Peter 3:1-6 (wives submitting to husbands), but no command for universal submission to pastors beyond normal church order.
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Women served as leaders and prophets in the early church:
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Phoebe, a deacon (Romans 16:1-2)
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Priscilla, a teacher alongside her husband Aquila (Acts 18:26)
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Junia, called an apostle (Romans 16:7)
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Therefore: Women, married or unmarried, are part of the Body with equal spiritual access to Christ’s Headship — no special “extra” submission outside mutual church respect.
++ Modern Charismatic Custom:
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Some teach women must submit not only to pastors but specifically to male leaders as a “spiritual authority” beyond normal church order.
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Women leaders are often restricted or not allowed at all, especially if unmarried or single.
2. Are Christian women under spiritual covering?
Chat GPT Responds;
First Church (New Testament) Doctrine:
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Every believer—man or woman—stands covered by Christ alone (Galatians 3:28, “neither male nor female, for ye are all one in Christ Jesus”).
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The Spirit equips all believers (men and women) with gifts and callings — Acts 2:17-18, 1 Corinthians 12:7-11.
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Women’s spiritual gifts and leadership roles were accepted without the need for “male covering” as a legal requirement.
POINT Modern Charismatic Custom:
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Some demand women leaders be “under the covering” of a male pastor or husband to function spiritually.
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Unmarried women leaders may be restricted or pressured to marry for “covering.”
3. Must Christian women be official members of a local church?
Chat GPT replies:
First Church (New Testament) Doctrine:
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Church membership was organic and relational, not institutional or paperwork-based — all believers included regardless of gender or marital status.
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Women participated fully in worship, teaching, and service — 1 Corinthians 11:5, Romans 16 mentions many women leaders and workers.
Modern Charismatic Expected Norm:
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Membership is required for leadership roles, but sometimes women are disqualified or limited based on marital status or gender.
Chat GPT AI states
Summary for Christian Women (First Church view):
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Equal standing in Christ’s Body — no extra hierarchy based on gender or marital status.
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Called and empowered to serve and lead by the Spirit.
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Mutual submission and respect govern relationships, not authoritarian control or legalistic “coverings.”
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Membership and fellowship are based on faith and Spirit-led community, not institutional rules.
CHARISMATIC FEAR OF WOMEN
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In many charismatic, prophetic, apostolic, and Pentecostal circles today, a strong but subtle cultural fear exists:
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Women leaders are often suspected of rebellion.
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Divorced women especially face blame: labeled “unsubmitted,” “damaged,” or “carriers of baggage.”
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They may be publicly pitied but privately shunned.
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MAIN POINT: Many leaders assume, wrongly, that the woman caused the divorce, was too opinionated, or was not “under proper covering.”
These views may be preached gently or shouted from pulpits, but they stand in sharp tension with the spirit of the New Testament.
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Sister Taveau and EORR CROSS BODY UNITY TEACHES REGARDING DIVORCE
(Male, female: it can apply)
Apostolic Taveau Says:
There is no one size fits all divorced persons, or story, Each one has their own unique qualities, Just like no 2 pastors are identical, two black, two white people, no to Libs or Republicans are identiy, NO TWO men or women OR ANYBODY is identical NOR 2r ministries, NOR 2 marriages, THUS NO 2 DIVORCES are ALIKE and one must both side of it to determine. I will tell you about MY “UNWANTED ” AMBUSH KIND:
MY POINT: I Did not choose it, I did ask for it, I was excommunicated by phone ,after a major illness(32 years), I told him that I would not sign the divorce papers, and that he loved (which I understand he did) But he was a man of power and great strength and proved to get his way .I was given any prayer, abiding by the Bible, nor allow Bible counselor. or face to face, not even Facetime, just his dismissal via a telephone call.
I lived in DFW then and one night as I came home at 11 PM alone, in the pitch black darkness, his divorce server jumped out of the bushes and handed me the papers and “HERE MRS D’ARCY’ So I took them and went into big silent grief, I knew no one nearby, nobody in my family really cared to hear what I was experienced, for they sunny shiny and buying their next house. Therefore I drew close the Lord and tried to fellowship with deluxe DFW Patrichian saints (of which I was not aware of the deep doctrine differences from my prior east coast servant leader universe) And there it begins. THE DISCOVERY THE DOCTRINES, AND FRUIT about about which I train and the perspective of extreme experience both by the well off, the have need of nothing and the pie in the sky indifferent, self absorbed, tired and deeply compassion fatigued deep ‘owning us all in ministry ” quagmire of area leadership.
I owe a lot to GOD and the prior Ministries I had meet before this period in time. I recalled my beloved as pastor father, who had been born in postage stamp Dallas, Georgia and here I was recalling his humble servant since, servant leadership, in quite the opposite MEGA DALLAS TEXAS. Quite the irony, Also a few natural East Coast humble, Holy Spirit ministers, at least I could tell that none THEM toyed with our minds and were not “famous in their OWN minds”… like these.
MAKING MONEY, MAMMON AND ACQUISITION AT PEER HUMAN RELATIONSHIP EXPENSE is the main testimony up until NOW. “The Poor Me Roots of almost anybody or any person in ministry who was COMPASSION FATIGUED, BIASED OR ANTI ANY KIND OF GENDER, COLOR OR ECONOMIC STATUS See Isaiah 1:10:27, notable the LEADERS of GOD’s PEOPLE in chapters 1-3, turning them into ISAIAH 5:20 “the current awful WOE” which withstands God’s MOVE for the nation Isaiah 10:27) REASON ambition produces Psalm 115: 4-8. “WOE”
Memory: Everywhere I looked, those big Hummers the area rage…plus the hail-fellow- well-met , and shallow high fivin’ fellowshipping, purely charismatics were “big” back then and the many “Future Famous” and the( always hurried (check their watch) and ambitious, that’s Dallas TX (other then GREAT SPAS and HEALTH CLUBS)..after than (in my traveling periphery) then gradually came in the many Lexus…But all that has not been my top priority. Hearing the Lord has…plus remarkable ability to survive and maintain JOY. Yet, twas an awfully Hard learning curve
QUOTE FROM THIS TIME :
“I was just a LINK in their CHAIN… one more TYPE in their hierarchal CASTE.”
NOTE that BOTH of these verses below “OUGHT” to explain the “divorce” in SOME cases with out the AFTERMATH, of Diseased BIAS, SPECULATION ,MEAN DISRESPECT “LABELING and PRESUMPTION” .yet the DON’T SO I walked out and never cared to look back and met PLENTY of Fine Future Church Persons, who have not SO MUCH RELIGION and who are DEVOID of any CARING “RELATIONSHIP RESPECT” (empathy, other centeredness and GENUINE LOVE).
And I was just a “THING” out in the “Trying Real Hard” King masses of Dallas, TX … I learned about that and now train against CHRISTIAN BIAS, STEREOTYPING and AM EORR CROSS BODY UNITY pulled out from SHOWBIZ. I also got a smattering of how it might feel to be RACIALLY BIASED against. for I was “often stereotyped, and agriegiously biased against in Dallas for AGE, GENDER, DIVORCE and HAVING DIVORCE “HELL WEIGHT” (Not the Preferred Stick thin, Glammed up Cutesy “Barbie” in showtime ministry)(and/or a WHITE MALE IN THEIR 20’s and 30s)… Sorry… but that was awful. And the thought of being around that STILL IS..
Let’s thank GOD FOR HIMSELF. He is a GOOD GOD.
Malachi 2:14–16 — “Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the LORD hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously… For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment…” (KJV)
1 Corinthians 7:15 — When the Unbeliever Leaves “NOTE it requires TO to say YES to marriage but only ONE to CANCEL THE MARRIAGE if “ONE PARTNER” WANTS “THEIR OWN” FAMILY “WAY.” So you’ve got to LET THEM GO. And that is NOT easy if YOU counted on abiding YOUR part of the Life Long Bible Covenant.
“But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.” (KJV)**
**Yet most all charismatic tongues talker accuse US, rumor, prophetic spy…ALWAYS US for “causing it” Paul’s instructions, I head and distance myself from all ministry WELP.
GO AHEAD TAKE FROM THIS WHAT IS SAID:
Making A Point: How Should a Divorced, Single Woman Lead Today — Biblically?
1. Stand in the authority of Christ alone (Col. 1:18).
2. Honorable peer relationships with other ministers — not forced submission.
3. Be open to accountability, counsel, prayer — not manipulation.
4. Serve with humility but boldness.
4. Refuse to accept labels like “rebellious” or “unsubmitted” when you have walked uprightly.
Point: Bottom Line: True New Testament Freedom
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Jesus never disqualified an honest, willing woman because of a husband’s sin.
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Paul never said a betrayed woman is unfit to teach, lead, or prophesy.
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Covering is Christ Himself — leaders help, but do not control.
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Fellowship and mutual respect, not domination, are biblical authority.
Key Scriptures to Stand On
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Isaiah 1:18 — God invites reasoning together. (relationship gathering)
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John 8:11 — “Neither do I condemn thee…”
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Galatians 3:28 — “There is neither male nor female…”
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1 Cor. 7:15 — “Not under bondage…”
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Ephesians 5:21 — “Submitting yourselves one to another…”
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2 Corinthians 1:24 — “Not that we have dominion over your faith…”
Closing Word About This
If you are a woman, single, divorced not by choice, and called to lead:
Christ covers you. Not man.
Serve with courage.
Walk in peace.
Ignore pompous bias — it is not your burden to bear.
2. What Did Jesus & Paul Actually Teach?
POINT: Jesus honored women.
— He defended the woman caught in adultery (John 8).
— He sat with the Samaritan woman (John 4) and gave her an evangelistic commission.
— He accepted women disciples and supporters openly (Luke 8:1–3).
POINT Paul recognized women leaders.
— Priscilla taught Apollos (Acts 18).
— Junia was “outstanding among the apostles” (Romans 16:7).
— Phoebe was a deacon and trusted messenger (Romans 16:1–2).
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POINT About divorce:
— Jesus rebuked treacherous divorces but made exception for hard-hearted betrayal (Matt. 19).
— Paul said if an unbeliever departs, the faithful spouse is “not bound” (1 Cor. 7:15).
— Nowhere does the Bible say a victim of betrayal is forever disqualified.POINT On submission & covering:
— Jesus: “One is your Master, even Christ, and all ye are brethren” (Matt. 23:8).
— Paul: “Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God” (Eph. 5:21).
— True spiritual authority is servant-based, not chain-of-command domination.POINT First Church: Fellowship vs. Institutional Control
First-century Christians:
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Met in homes (Acts 2:42–47)
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Had shared oversight by plural elders (Acts 14:23)
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WOMEN SPEAKING, USING THEIR GOD GIVEN LEADERSHIP GIFTS, IN THE CHURCH
Understanding Ephesians 5:21 and Paul’s Teachings on Women in Ministry: A First Church Perspective for Today
SUBMISSION FIRST CHURCH OFFICES, ELDERS, LAY, MARRIAGE
1. Ephesians 5:21 — “Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God”
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This verse is foundational in Paul’s teaching on Christian relationships. It sets the tone for mutual submission among believers, not a one-sided or hierarchical domination.
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The surrounding verses (Ephesians 5:22-33) discuss wives submitting to husbands, but within the larger context of mutual love and respect — husbands are called to love their wives as Christ loved the church (a sacrificial love).
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Mutual submission means all believers, men and women, are called to humility and service toward one another in reverence to Christ.
2. Paul’s “Women keep silent in the church” passages (1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-12)
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These passages have been debated for centuries.
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Context matters:
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In 1 Corinthians, the church was disorderly; Paul addresses disruptions in worship, not issuing a universal ban on women’s speech or leadership. Many scholars argue Paul meant “women should not speak in a disruptive or authoritative manner contrary to church order.”
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In 1 Timothy, Paul addresses false teaching and cultural norms, possibly cautioning against untrained or domineering speech by women in a specific context.
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Elsewhere, Paul praises women leaders: Phoebe (deacon), Priscilla (teacher), Junia (apostle).
3. The First Church View (1st Century Christianity):
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Women actively participated in ministry, prophecy, teaching, and leadership within proper order and respect for the community (Acts 21:9; Romans 16; 1 Corinthians 11:5).
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Silence passages were likely meant to maintain order in worship, not to exclude women permanently or universally.
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The emphasis was on spiritual gifts, character, and submission to Christ as Head, not rigid gender hierarchy.
4. Historical Shift and Accusative Use
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Starting from the 2nd-4th centuries and more strongly by the Middle Ages, church structures became increasingly hierarchical and patriarchal.
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Silence passages were institutionalized to limit women’s roles in leadership and public ministry.
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The rise of clericalism and male-dominated authority led to blocking women from preaching, teaching, and leadership, often using Paul’s words out of original context as legalistic proof.
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This shift was influenced by cultural, social, and political factors — not purely biblical theology.
5. How Should We View This Today?
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Return to Scripture’s fuller context and original intent: mutual submission, Spirit-empowered gifting, and orderly worship.
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Recognize Paul’s support for women’s ministry when exercised properly in community.
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Reject the legalistic, exclusionary use of “silence” that blocks gifted women from serving Christ’s Body.
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Encourage a balanced, Spirit-led approach honoring both order and gifting, regardless of gender.
Summary:
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Ephesians 5:21 calls for mutual submission in reverence to Christ.
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Paul’s “silence” passages address specific issues, not universal female silence or exclusion.
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The First Church embraced women’s ministry with order and respect.
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Later church history often misused these texts to suppress women’s roles.
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Today, we should embrace the Spirit’s gifts in all, honoring Scripture and the First Church’s fuller example.
Introduction
The role of women in church leadership and ministry has been a subject of much debate, especially regarding passages such as Ephesians 5:21 and Paul’s instructions about women keeping silent in the church. This article explores these scriptures through the lens of First Church doctrine, the historical development of their interpretations, and how modern ministries—both male and female leaders—can understand and apply these teachings faithfully today.
NOT IN THE CHARISMATIC BOOK OF RULES
Ephesians 5:21 – Mutual Submission in Christ
Paul begins the section on Christian relationships in Ephesians 5:21 with a profound call:
“Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.” (KJV)
This verse is often overshadowed by the following instructions on marriage but it is the foundation of all Christian relationships—mutual submission. The Greek word for submission here (hypotassō) implies a voluntary, respectful yielding to one another, motivated by reverence for Christ.
This mutual submission sets the tone for how believers, men and women alike, interact in the body of Christ:
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It is not a one-way demand for women to submit only.
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It reflects humility and love from all sides.
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It models Christ’s own sacrificial leadership (Eph 5:25).
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THE FAMOUS Paul’s “Women Keep Silent” Passages – Context and Meaning
Two key passages are often cited to limit women’s roles:
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1 Corinthians 14:34-35: “Let your women keep silence in the churches…”
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1 Timothy 2:11-12: “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach…”
Understanding the Context
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1 Corinthians 14 deals with disorderly worship practices. The Corinthian church struggled with interruptions, including disruptive speech. Paul’s instruction was to maintain peace and order, not to impose a blanket ban on all speech by women.
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1 Timothy 2 addresses false teaching and cultural norms in the Ephesian church. Paul’s caution relates to authority and teaching, especially where false doctrines were spreading.
Contrasting Other Scripture
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Paul commended women leaders in other places:
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Phoebe, a deacon (Romans 16:1-2)
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Priscilla, a teacher alongside her husband Aquila (Acts 18:26)
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Junia, noted as an apostle (Romans 16:7)
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This shows Paul supported women serving in leadership roles when done properly and respectfully within the church order.
ChatGPT States: The First Church View on Women in Ministry
POINT: The early church was Spirit-led and gifted both men and women for service:
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Women prophesied (Acts 21:9, 1 Corinthians 11:5).
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Women served as deacons, teachers, and apostles.
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Worship was orderly but inclusive.The emphasis was on:
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Character
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Spiritual gifting
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Orderly conduct in worship
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Mutual submission to Christ as Head
No evidence exists that early Christians imposed a permanent silence or exclusion of women based on gender alone
TD ASKS: When did this ANTI FEMALE LEADER CHURCH BELIEF START
Chat GPT says
Historical Shifts: From Inclusion to Exclusion
NOTE: By the 2nd to 4th centuries and especially into the Middle Ages, church structures became more hierarchical and patriarchal (other articles I wrote with Chat GPT said After the Roman, Greek, Constantine, orthodoxy and hierarchy entered into the church (3-4 century) it began to exclude, control, force women backward, became “anti woman leader”. Irony, this was the Church Of Laodocean Age, “monied, at ease, luke warm” (like many in this last move, until recently)
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Cultural norms favoring male authority.
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Increased clericalism emphasizing male leadership.
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Legalistic interpretations of Paul’s silence passages to exclude women from preaching, teaching, or leadership roles.
This institutionalization often suppressed the Spirit’s gifts in women and reduced their roles to passive participation.
How Should We View This Today?
A Balanced, Spirit-Led Approach:
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Return to Scripture’s Full Context:
Understand mutual submission as a principle for all believers, not just women. -
Recognize the Holy Spirit’s Gifts in Women:
Embrace women called to leadership, teaching, and service with respect and order. -
Reject Legalism and Patriarchal Abuse:
Do not use “silence” passages to silence the Spirit or disqualify gifted women unfairly. -
Maintain Order and Respect in Worship:
Encourage orderly conduct, humility, and mutual respect for leadership roles regardless of gender. -
Honor Both Male and Female Ministers:
Acknowledge that both men and women have unique, vital roles in building up the church.
Conclusion
The Word of God calls every believer—male and female—to a life of service, submission to Christ as Head, and respect for one another. While Paul’s instructions about women keeping silent were contextually specific and not a blanket prohibition, the early church embraced women’s ministry when exercised in godly order.
The historic sidelining of women arose more from cultural and institutional shifts than from biblical mandate. Today, we must reclaim a biblical, balanced view that honors the Spirit’s gifting and the example of the First Church, allowing women and men to serve faithfully together
Key Scriptures to Remember:
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Ephesians 5:21
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1 Corinthians 11:5
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Romans 16:1-7
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Galatians 3:28
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1 Timothy 2:11-15 (with contextual understanding)
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1 Corinthians 14:26-40 (especially verses on order)
CHRISTIAN MEN AND WOMEN IN CHARISMATIC EXPECTED BELIEFS
1. Does a fellow Christian minister or believer have to be “submitted under authority to a local pastor or ministry group”?
NOTE: First Church (New Testament) Doctrine:
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Jesus Christ alone is Head of every believer — Colossians 1:18, Ephesians 1:22-23, 1 Corinthians 11:3.
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Submission is mutual among believers — Ephesians 5:21 (“Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God”).
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Leaders serve, not dominate — 1 Peter 5:2-3 (“neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock”).
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Paul was an apostle “not SENT OUT, OR UNDER man, neither by a group” — Galatians 1:1.
Therefore: Early Christians respected true elders and apostles as examples and guides, not as required overlords or gatekeepers. They followed Christ directly by the Spirit.
Modern Charismatic Custom (some streams):
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Often teaches a strict “covering” doctrine: everyone must be “under” a pastor or apostle for spiritual safety, blessing, or legitimacy.
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Some groups equate non-submission with rebellion or sin.
2. Must a believer or minister be “under spiritual covering”?
1. First Church (New Testament) Doctrine:
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The only true “covering” is Christ’s blood and righteousness — Romans 5:9, 1 John 1:7, Isaiah 61:10 (prophetic).
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Believers are led by the Holy Spirit, not by man-made hierarchy — Romans 8:14, 1 John 2:27 (“you need not that any man teach you”).
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Paul operated freely, partnering with churches, not controlled by them — Acts 13:1-4, Galatians 2:9.
Therefore: The “covering” idea as an absolute control structure is not found in the early church. Authority was relational, not legalistic.
Modern Charismatic Custom (some streams):
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Teaches the pastor or apostle is a “spiritual umbrella” protecting you from harm or deception.
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Sometimes used to enforce control or keep people tied to a network.
3. Must one be an official member of a local church?
POINT First Church (New Testament) Doctrine:
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Believers were part of the Body of Christ by faith and baptism, not by signed membership rolls — Acts 2:41-42, 1 Corinthians 12:12-13.
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Fellowship was organic — house to house, community to community — Acts 2:46, Romans 16:5.
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The emphasis was on being the church, not joining an institution.
Therefore: There was no legal or administrative requirement to “belong” to a local building or organization to be legitimate in God’s eyes.
Modern Charismatic Custom (some streams):
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Many churches require formal membership for accountability, voting, or to serve in leadership.
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Sometimes used to keep track of people for practical reasons — not inherently bad, but not biblically mandated.
Summary in First Church Doctrine (early church):
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One Head: Christ
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One covering: His blood
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One fellowship: the Spirit-led Body
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Mutual love, respect, discernment — not forced submission.
REMEMBER:
- Jesus Christ came to enlarge his FAMILY.
- Apostle Paul pens to THE CHRIST FOLLOWING MULTICULTURAL, UNITY, DIVERSE, EPHESIANS 5:21 “MUTUALLY RESPECTFUL AND ALL SUBMITTED” EPHESIANS 4 “TRANSFORMED “COMMUNITY ” **
** which effects the SOCIETY..which WHY we’re learning this JUST NOW
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