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Note: this was first posted June 16 2025 www.ministryaiandi.com
“QUOTE THIS: TD asks “Is there a 1980s onward growing “apostasy” the long prophesied “Bible falling away?” OR is Poor Me, Accusation, Mercenary ,also False “a driving them away” PLUS also with that, might there also be” a holy fear of the Lord Last Days Godly REMNANT who know their Bible and are submitted to Apostle Paul to GET OUT “From all 2 Timothy 3:1-8, I Timothy 6:5 (unable to truly trust) FALSE ROTTEN FRUIT?!
Q.What does it mean when a local senior pastors “gatekeep”and patrol and “rat on” many people about strangers, newbies, far-off person who are not in their fellowship, their borrd, the family, their work..(often it’s LONE quiet person, often the LONE APPEARING woman)?
TD ADDS: from 35 years plus of embedded observation, bad experience, noticing many others maltreated, misrepresented by this Squire Style..that this”pastor style” might be even well connected in a national, regional even global sense. And they might want to share, “To warn” and keep informed each one of their many “Bretheren ” in that Christian ministry
Some, who are more stealth, warlike and occult, can ‘divine and inner scan, read persons’ (just like accusing Salem Witch Trials) Based on the size, vibe, gender, look, age, race..
The “unknown” ( as far off perceived by these 98% stubborn, Germanic WASP Colonial, stoic, mostly) person may be “attacked in absentia ” based on the VIBE, LOOKS, GENDER, RUMORS..it says that they call themselves “apostles and prophets” but THESE are my pet peeve, for they can’t tell a weeping grieving different not LP movement from a ‘warlock, witch or undermining Jezebel’. ‘ And this has caused to study them up and down and whenever the STINKING FRUIT appears…
I also rename the Holy Ghost imperial seer lot of these (my worst ministry night mare the “Witch Watchers’) who are ever into “Divining” “mind, soul, vibe reading” (again. like the works abased cultish version of 2 Kings 6:12 (which I know that gift well, it runs in myself and my family and many others who are not easily spooked, loving giving “relationship respecting” servant leaders)and also “Salem Trials basic New England (The WELP Patriarchs) choosey Similar
I’ve visited the USA Body of these and noted the propensity to do this TO MANY (on occassion God allowed me to stumble upon this) It is SO BAD and SO UNSAFE, DARK DANGER and HOLY SPIRIT COUNTERFEIT..NO LAMPSTAND LOVE
To show up to visit,to ongoing attend,but to NOT KNOW what they do silently is wicked, cultlike and offense, USING the CAUSE OF CHRIST for their own GOOD.
To imagine, simply for being an atypical stranger, a leader angel unawares, an experienced ministry expat, a wife perhaps checking out churches while waits for her family to relocate (as in “NO MAN SEEN BESIDE HER” (This the TRAIT) and I have first hand Luke eyewitnessed it MANY TIMES ..and this WHY I teach it. 1. TO deliver it 2. TO WARN Persons
WHY RISK HAVING YOUR OR MY HEALTHY Good Name word cursed, talked about, talked against, rumor and false witness born “all about “even perhaps ‘spooking these” and wind up with OUR WHOLESOME Sane Names posted on their national (also local area) group’s “Known Witch List”
Stupid as it sounds, YES I believe goes on (for I’d already heard about that in VA..and then down in Florida (2003) a Tampa sr pastor shared this with me after I had been their guest speaker) “God has HIS way of getting what HE WANTS out” Daniel 2:28 “There is a God who reveals secrets” My prayer verse since 1990s and the discovery of false cagey often dark subliminal witchcraft but may be ‘soft feeling” sly “doctrine”
TD ASKS CHAT GPT FOR MORE OBJECTIVE POINTS
Sister T says
Please describe what is happening with all of this big goings on?
Chat responds
When a group of pastors gossip or “report” among themselves that someone (often a LONE APPEARING woman and/or a quiet man) is:
1. Unsubmitted
2. Not under a spiritual covering
3. A Jezebel
4. A witch/warlock
5.. Sinning sexually
6. Has come because they are “Hunting for a man”
7. A rumored church hopper
POINT: This is modern “gatekeeping gossip” — leaders policing who is “clean enough” to belong.
POINT :Often done behind the scenes, not with biblical Matthew 18 private dialogue.
POINT These labels are serious accusations, but usually based on rumor, control culture, or fear of losing influence — not on clear, witnessed sin handled with truth and love.
TD CONCLUDES: it’s predatory, unsafe, believes the evil report, not Bible submitted (no relationship respect, it’s elite, classist gender biased, appearance biased, avoidant, unsafe, violation the individual rights to think and do, and is clearly missing APOSTOLIC PROTOCOL
ONE: 1 John 1:7 (KJV)“But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”
Key idea: True believers walk honestly in Christ’s light — this creates real fellowship and keeps us clean through Jesus’ sacrifice.(we note that the last part of the verse is dependent upon them /us living the FIRST PART)
TWO: Galatians 6:1 (KJV)“Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.”
Key idea: If someone sins, the mature response is gentle restoration — not gossip or harsh condemnation.(Face to face, one to one, in private, meekly)
THREE Matthew 18:15–16 (KJV)
“Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.”
Key idea: Jesus’ clear process for conflict resolution:
POINT: Talk privately first. (ABSENT, MISSING, NEVER EVER ONCE HAS OCCURRED TO THE OFT FALSE WITNESS, WORD CURSED, PRAY AGAINST, WITCH WATCHED, AND IN PUBLIC JUMPED HUMAN (calm, abiding Jame 3:17 peaceable approachable mature, easy going fruit) humble style PERSON..
POINT If no resolution, bring one or two witnesses.
POINT If still no resolution, then tell it to the church (see v.17).
TD QUESTIONS: ?? WHO DOES THIS ??( As she has lived to tell about it)
“I always note age, race, group, politics, ministry flow, doctrine ) and it ONLY seems to a TOP DOWN WELP, WELM in famous celebrity style group who is full of themselves and has NO RESPECT for new, leader, unknown ‘viable” persons. (LP Need to Be OVER US, squire Charismatic)”NAR, shepherding move, LP , Mega Micro Systems, World wide well known but cult spirit
NOW MAIN POINT: Revelation 2:29 (KJV)
“He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”
Key idea: The Holy Spirit still speaks — each person and local church must be attentive and obedient to Him.
Sister T asks Chat GPT:
What does it reveal about the local, regional,national office pastors’ group whose character, move does all of this?
Chat GPT replies
They have created an inner circle — a power structure that:
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Tries to control reputation and access.
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Uses labels to discredit someone without fair hearing.
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Operates in fear or pride, not in humility or grace.
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Ignores biblical due process (Matthew 18:15–17, Galatians 6:1).
This behavior matches Pharisee-like “yeast” — adding man-made tradition and fear-based control to Christ’s simple gospel.
Pharisee spirit & yeast in the Bible
1. What is “yeast of the Pharisees”?
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Jesus warned: “Beware of the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees” (Matthew 16:6).
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Meaning: Hypocrisy, man-made rules, control, fake holiness that spreads like yeast.
2. Big Boss tradition:
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Many church leaders claim apostolic authority but act like Pharisees: policing externals, punishing free people, fearing loss of status.
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They burden people with labels, fear, or threats instead of leading with mercy and truth.
Biblical contrast
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Jesus knew the heart and loved the outcasts — He defended the woman at the well, the woman caught in adultery, and the sinful woman with the alabaster jar.
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He rebuked the Pharisees who slandered and misjudged people to maintain control.
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True spiritual authority restores gently, never shames or isolates by gossip.
Key point
POINT: Calling someone Jezebel, witch, church hopper, or unsubmitted — without personal relationship, direct evidence, or grace — is spiritual slander, not biblical discernment.
++ Real Kingdom oversight tests the fruit: love, truth, peace, accountability — not rumor or hierarchy.
Bottom line
“Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.” (John 7:24, KJV)
“By their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matthew 7:20, KJV)
“Restore such an one in a spirit of meekness…” (Galatians 6:1, KJV)
LAST: ME RETEACHING QUEEN JEZEBEL
Revelation 2:20 (KJV)
“Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.”
TD POINT: Jesus Rebuked the Leader, Not Just “Jezebel”
Many use this verse to label any strong woman a “Jezebel spirit.”
This is shallow and partly wrong.
NEW POINT The real Holy Spirit context:
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Jesus is speaking to the church in Thyatira.
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He addresses His words to the lampstand overseer — the top leader / apostolic elder responsible for guarding the flock.
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The issue was not that a woman existed, or even that her name was literally Jezebel.
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The issue was that the appointed leader tolerated an unclean, manipulative influence inside Christ’s church.
- Might be male dominating, fierce controller of any race, demeanor or ANYBODY
- Also it might be a WOMAN leader now faced with fierce female OR male, any other
TD Key point #1 — Jesus Rebuked the Male Overseer, Not Just the Troublemaker
1. “Thou sufferest…” = You allow it.
2. He had Christ’s authority to confront deception — but he feared, tolerated, or passively avoided dealing with it.
3. The Holy Spirit holds the leader responsible for protecting the people from seductive teaching and controlling spirits.
NOTE: This is timeless — it applies to all overseers, apostles, senior pastors, business CEOs, family heads.
Fearful passivity is sin. Loving authority is commanded
Key point #2 — It’s a Principle for Any Gender, Age, Race
“Jezebel” here is a spiritual metaphor for manipulative, unsubmitted, deceptive control.
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This can appear in a man or a woman.
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It is not about gender — it is about the spirit behind the behavior.
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It is also about leaders’ fear of confronting drama, power plays, or idolatry because they don’t want conflict.
Key point #3 — The Overseer’s Failure
The “lampstand” in Revelation means the local church or ministry’s spiritual light.
Christ threatens to remove it if leaders refuse to address compromise:
“Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.” — Revelation 2:5 (KJV)
The light goes out not because of one deceiver — but because the shepherds allowed the wolf to stay in the pen.
Key point #4 — This Applies to Ministry, Business, and Life
Any place with influence — a church, a fellowship, a family, a company — must guard against:
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Tolerating controlling, manipulative power players.
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Letting intimidation or fear override godly correction.
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Excusing sin because “it’s too messy to address.”
Biblical Back-Up: What Leaders Must Do
1.” Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof… neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.” — 1 Peter 5:2–3 (KJV)
2. “Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness…” — Galatians 6:1 (KJV)
3.“Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone…” — Matthew 18:15 (KJV)
Jesus calls for mature spiritual leadership:
1. Correct privately. One to one, face to face, respectfully, humble, firmly, (when you are afraid, do a Matthew 18: 16 privately, calmly purely, respectfully (no accusing)
2. Address sin humbly and firmly.
3.Do not let manipulation, bullying, authoritarianism destroy Christs’ Representation in any size Christian group.
Final Kingdom Wisdom
Revelation 2:20 is not a license to “presume, assess, and size up ” and /doggedly hunt “Jezebels” in the congregation, around your area. (typecasting misogynist anti woman, plainly bigoted) (fraidy cat, weak whimp).
It is a sobering word to every overseer and gatekeeper:
1. Be brave.
2. Be clear.
3 Confront the real spirit — in love and truth.
4. Do not fear pushback.
5. Protect the flock; do not tolerate deception, whatever its gender, title, or popularity.
“He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” — Revelation 2:29 (KJV)
“If no shoe fits,etc”…Potential reasons why SOME OF US no longer attend one of these fellowships even NO ON LAND MINISTRY. Submitted as Realistic Empathetic 2 Timothy 3:1-8 Cause Selah
FINAL PART ….SUMMARY
Nicolaitans, Jezebel & Gatekeeping — A Candid Look at Fleshly* Control vs. Holy Spirit Freedom (* fling of the flesh)
In Revelation, Jesus directly names two dangerous corruptions that infect His Body:
POINT: The doctrine and deeds of the Nicolaitans.
POINT: The tolerance of “Jezebel,” a manipulative spirit.
He says plainly: “which thing I hate.” (Revelation 2:6, 2:15, KJV)
What do these have in common?
Both are works of the flesh — not the Holy Spirit.
“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies…”
Galatians 5:19–20 (KJV)
Jezebel represents fleshly manipulation, sexual or emotional control, and a pushy influence that tries to dominate relationships and spiritual direction.
Nicolaitans represent fleshly hierarchy — a power structure that conquers believers instead of serving them. It replaces Spirit-led organic leadership with rigid top-down control.
How does this relate to Gatekeeping?
Gatekeeping, in its true biblical sense, means guarding the door:
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Protecting the flock from wolves (Acts 20:28–31 KJV).
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Testing doctrine (1 John 4:1 KJV).
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Holding leaders to Christ’s standard (1 Peter 5:2–3 KJV).
But when gatekeeping is done in the flesh, it turns Nicolaitan:
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Leaders become self-appointed gate-lords, deciding who is “in” or “out” based on fear, control, or status.
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People are labeled “rebellious,” “unsubmitted,” “witch,” or “Jezebel” when they simply ask healthy questions or follow the Holy Spirit for themselves.
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Gatekeepers stop pointing people to Jesus the true Door (John 10:9 KJV) and instead build fences around their own kingdoms.
In short:
Jezebel controls by seduction and fear.
Nicolaitans control by rank and oppression.
Fleshly gatekeeping feeds both.
WDJD ? (What Did Jesus Do?)
What did Jesus model instead?
POINT Servant leadership: (heart condition)
“…he that is chief, as he that doth serve.” (Luke 22:26 KJV)
POINT Mutual submission: (heart mind condition)
“Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.” (Ephesians 5:21 KJV)
POINT Spiritual authority that equips, not enslaves: (actions that reflect the heart, mind, nature, human compassion of God)
“For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ…” (Ephesians 4:12 KJV)
The True Lampstand Standard
In Revelation 2:20, Jesus rebukes not just the controlling spirit, but the fearful overseer who allows it:
“Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel...”
(now days could be a man or any human, also a movement, subculture like this on “occult to control”
This shows that:
1. God hates when leaders fear conflict more than they fear compromise, being controlled.
2. He hates when shepherds tolerate manipulation.
3. He hates when authority is used to dominate people instead of protecting and freeing them.
Final Call — What The Spirit Says Now
Today, the Holy Spirit still says:
“He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” (Revelation 2:29 KJV)
Believers must:
1. Walk in the Light (1 John 1:7 KJV).
2. Restore each other gently (Galatians 6:1 KJV).
3. Confront ministry error, abject sin directly and biblically (Matthew 18:15–16 KJV).
4. Reject any spirit — male or female, person, Christian authority— that manipulates, demands complete authority top dog control (MY way or the Highway)/rule, micromanage, wears down, puts fear on the people, uses methods bearing fruit of seduction, or rules from the flesh.
God’s true gatekeepers are watchmen and servants, not dictators and fear-mongers.
Conclusion: Burn the Nicolaitan Ladder
- If the local fellowship looks more like a human pyramid than an organic Body — the Nicolaitan spirit is at work.
- If leaders are terrified to correct controlling people — the lampstand dims.
- If we all love one another, serve one another, and submit first to Christ — the Nicolaitan ladder and Jezebel’s throne both fall down.
Stand on This:“But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another…”
(1 John 1:7 KJV)“Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.”
(2 Corinthians 3:17 KJV)
NOTE: “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”
(Revelation 2:29 KJV)
Let the Church be free. Let the gates stay pure. Let Jesus be Lord alone.
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