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2009 ARCHIVES….. DISCERNING AMONG THE MANY VOICES + WE CENTRIC, WE GLOBAL VOCABULARY

Due to the big need for Christ Following…Clear Community ongoing DISCERNMENT..starting BETTER OFF BEING “NOW” ..I shall repost this PERCEIVER-DISCERNER Primer Article, PLUS the 2019 addition, on man TCL Ministry websites.

 

BELOW is a Vintage 2009 repost.

But first, please review the following is a 2019 addition. Note; based on being SENT to observed the Ministry Christian Body (diverse, all colors, sized, but mostly spirit filled as I already been reared among denominationals..since called by the Lord at age 24, when abiding on the East Coast, making this 43 full QUALITY years of choosing to be Holy Spirit specifically led, personally Self Governed /Abiding 100% in enduring (clearly ALL) James 3;17 full/non Over Lord, fruits…which means over a FULL GENERATION of compiled ministry/society, media growing big effects.. observations,etc. And while not widely known, and preferring NON CELEBRITY HOLLYWOOD, FAME /CLASS CONSCIOUS,PICKING ANY POLITICAL OVERT BIG PARTISAN SIDE..as in Current MIXTURE MINISTRY…but rather abiding James 3:17 “pure, peaceable, easily entreated, full of mercy and (hopefully ) good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy” …yet this WE GLOBAL ..Human Genuine Person…is NOT… by any means …an apostolic novice.

TV MEDIA HAS STARTED ACCUSING SOLID WHITE SKIN COLORS..And I really want to share this for the well intentioned WELP, many  other WE CENTRICS.

MINISTRY NEW VOCABULARY… ARE “WE” (ME, YOU) WE CENTRIC OR WE GLOBAL..it may make a BIG (being safe) difference in the next coming ongoing born again YEARS.

PLEASE NOTE: This is not about being in leader competition,”always being regarded as IN THE RIGHT” or “to come out looking good, smelling ever so SWEET” ..as DFW Leader, Taveau D’Arcy Creative Ministry Leadership is NOT into any of that. Rather, we prefer to focus on how spiritual assessed as both TRUE and even WAY OFF  strongly affect  a real human person’s  RELATIONSHIPS… with GOD, THEMSELF, CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP,REPRESENTING JESUS IN MINISTRY…ALSO FAMILY LIFE OTHERS…

 

HENCE we’re rather be accused of being “unsubmitted” by our Deep South Elevated Pulpit Leaders, their accustomed devout Lay, most usually ONLY, ALWAYS ongoing repeated (non legalistically) assesses Western European deep ancestry ,not much into being Christian diverse, and bearing many differing shades of “WE “ARE THE RULING WORLD” “US’ CENTRIC..which are chief apostolic WELP.

THUS having NOT been raised (by emotionally healthy wise Pastor Dear Father) WE CENTRIC (“We are the WORLD Colonial” )  or …back under  the need to be “SUBMITTED UNDER” the OT Levitical covering letter of the Law).. yet the purpose apostolic writer has been repeatedly immersed in there usually prophetic ongoing midst. And prefers it (for the Holy Spirit, worship,wise parts BUT NOT being checked out from afar but accused and never spoken to directly ..or being diagnosed by their convenient use of Pop Psychology in Ministry) HENCE the Noble Berean.

AND this She writer is WE GLOBAL (assigned by God, earthsuit packaged in a Western European Ancestry Outer Court Package, but DEEPLY MULTICULTURAL, CROSS RACIAl, CROSS CULTURAL and thus CHRIST CENTRIC not WE or SELF of one COUNTRY CENTRIC (in following of Jesus Christ) YET not nationalists, but we view ourselves as patriots.

WE CENTRIC…can be 1)well intentioned, truly desiring to be multicultural ..but who have never been around any other races, never worked with, were close friends with, grew up near..as they were not around them, living in close proximity, (I fit that category up to my mid twenties, just where I was purely non racist, but raised) 2) raised racist but understand it’s wrong, but still awkward, which also can include some/many who feel shy  ..even maybe a bit suspicious of dark skinned others.(PS that last part was NOT ever well parented/nonbiased, still Deep South  me) YET (crowned heads UP…. sorry to observe but the WESTERN EUROPEAN, EASTERN EUROPEAN, SOLID INTO SUPREME CAUCASIAN NATIONALIST, HATE SUB CULTURE GROUPS 3) the far RIGHT Alt Right, Skinheads , KKK, more would be put into the Hate WE CENTRIC deep south but all over, foreign nationals..

AND IF I WERE A   WE CENTRIC (which I am NOT, am TRIBAL, WE preferring GLOBAL)…yet a  Sweet Pure Christ Accepting WELL INTENTIONED but clueless and SHAKEY CAUCASIAN not into multicultural…and and a Christian. I would fully distance myself and any BIBLE Ministry far AWAY from being confused as being PART OF, mixed up IN WITH..due to what is on the news nightly and is increasingly accusative, negative and deemed HATE, “Clearly all WHITES, all BORN AGAIN MINISTRY is “accusative of  DARK SKINNED mostly TRIBAL non Christian faiths,other dark skinned ministers.”

MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, apostolic WELPS are We Centric. Not one bit Christian accusing, just informing. So all may self, ministry evaluate.

PS WE GLOBALS, who are more accustomed to, and think automatically “accepting ALL cultures, minister, styles and nations” are usually NOT as highly structured into hierarchy and/or human pleasing Elevated Elite, Patriarchal Hierarchal Ministry. For they are more tribal, swarm even compared to Mother Teresa, where WASP..PATRIARCHAL ONLY ALLOWED TO HEAD LEAD  WE CENTRIC, indeed authority man overseer WELP resembles King Solomon (Christian ministry micro mini-mighty mega).

OF COURSE that is not a stereotype, because God loves to defy formula, ministry stereotypes..So the best advice, assess, view, discern perceive EACH one, as a ONE BY ONE Unique  Subjective Case.

NOTE: We Centric, We Global are both my own TCL God given, coined words ..since 2016. AfterI  noting how TV MEDIA seems to accuse Caucasians, white earthsuits, most especially Ye Must Be Born Again CHRISTIANS as “always assessed, accused as WHITE RACISTS..” Hence I had to purposely examine and make a definition to show which white skinned humans, Christians, ministers, lay ARE MOSTLY NOT ONE BIT BIASED, prone to be PREJUDICED and which ones may a bit be or a WHOLE LOT BE (racist, resembling biased)

LAST: I would strongly encourage ALL Styles, Cultures of Born Again Persons, Ministry to now VOCALLY be known to take a PUBLIC STAND AGAINST ALL “RACISM, BIGOTRY, PREJUDICE and/or GENDER, APPEARANCE, SELF BIGOTRY ” as it stems from BACK UNDER THE OT LAW. Also use Social Media to post. Be ACTIVELY giving needed proof of how NON biased YOU, “WE” truly are!
(….+Your children’s future)

NEXT TOPIC: just below.. is the new prophecy vocabulary PERCEIVER-DISCERNER (of which I am One of His Prophetic Office One’s)

Actually my TCL preferred non elite name (meaning vs using PROPHECY) is someone who is a”Perceiver-Discerner” ….as opposed to the rather stigmatized leader office word Prophet. Yet not into autocratic legalism on this. However, “prophet” is the correct Bible non elite name, so I’ll use it but toss in “perceiver-discerner” to help  make it down to earth….and to “despookafy” (make it user friendly…apart from using anybody )(as in haha)  that Holy Ghost term.

THE PERCEIVER-DISCERNER’S Life Identity (true esteem) does not proceed out of one’s GIFT, TALENT, FAMOUS NETWORK, NET WORTH, PERSONA, SPIRITUAL ACCURACY, KNOWLEDGE OR RENOWN…or LACK THEREOF. It proceeds ONLY from the human person’s RELATIONSHIP and God Inner Revealed Call, Identity based upon the knowledge, RELATIONSHIP with their guiding Savior… Jesus Christ.

 

THUS, apart from, avoiding any celebrity, persona, maintaining ELITEALL GOD INSPIRED RELATIONSHIPS MATTER…(rather than Success …Skill….Who’s Over Whom Spiritual Legalistic Authority); This inspires also perpetuates, Bible fulfills… diverse multicultural Ephesians 4, Bible based ALL (Eph 4:1-3, Eph 5:21) RELATIONSHIP COMMUNITY.

(Ephesians 2;14, whole Chapter 4, 5:21, James 3:17, Psalm 133, Proverbs 2:1-5, apostolic Galatians 1:1-2)

 APOSTOLIC VINTAGE: DISCERNING THE MANY VOICES

“There are many voices in the world, and each one has significance.”  I Corinthians 14: 10

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This may be viewed as as kernel Bible overview which may provoke new thinking which  may be used with children, teenagers through adult

Discernment Training 101

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, [even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Hebrews 5: 14

The Bible teachers that “there  are many voices in the world, and each on has significance.”(I Corinthians 14: 10). 

This means that ever single word or internal suggestion we hear or feel, actually means something.  

Now don’t start feeling all spooked out or weird. That is not from God (scroll down to  see James 3: 17)

Yet, Hebrews 5: 14 says that  it takes practice to learn how to discern what is evil from what is good.

 If the Bible tell us that we need to grow in discernment by practicing using our God given Holy Spirit gift of discernment of spirits (I Corinthians 12: 10)  then this means that God never demands that we are 100 per cent perfect in discernment.

However, the Bible does say that it needs to be used, which means practiced and even trained.  Although one can mature and grow in this Holy Spirit gift, ultimately we are not able to “achieve” being an accurate discerner. God, training, prayer and trial and mistakes DEVELOP the gift of discernment.

 Learning to accurately discern which is the  True Voice coming from the Living Shepherd, is a life long process. And it is like riding a horse: if you fall of, then just repent, but get back up on it again.

PROUD RELIGIOUS AUTHORITY?

There Are Many Voices in the World

Here is an incomplete sampling of  many of the voices we hear in modern life:

1. Our own voice

2. Father God’s Voice: the inward witness of God’s Holy Spirit

3. Our thoughts, ideas

4.Voices of family and friends, peers, fellow workers, authorities

5.Voices on cell phones, computers, CD’s, Ipods, radio, DVDs, movies

6. Nightly News

7. Dreams, visions, intuition

 8. Feelings

9. Words of advice

10. Written words: blogs, books, websites, letters

11. Words from a prophet , senior pastor, Christian leader, TV minister, (or secular messages by secular media persons)

12. The voices of  government, civil authorities

So, HOW can we decide which voice is one that represents something Godly in our lives?

If we are listening to a word of prophecy or advice or even a message from a Christian leader, on TV or in church. HOW do we really tell if that word is TRULY SENT from the Living God?


First, it really pays to know Scriptures which tell us that God wants us to discern when He is guiding us. As we said, this takes many years of practice, but you first begin by meditating on the Scriptures and claiming them in faith for you God given ability to hear accurately from God.

 

Bible Scriptures to Start to Believe, Claim and Confess:

Ask God to sharpen your ability to  discern right from wrong, and ask Him for the gift of discernment of spirits listed in  I Corinthians 12: 1-10 (discernment is listed in v. 10)

“ But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, [and] easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.’ James 3: 17

“God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, love and a sound mind.” I Timothy 1:7

“… the LORD was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice. I Kings 19:12

“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: “ John 10:27

“The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.’ Psalm 37: 23

“Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness: Hebrews 3:7-8 *

*(I put this verse since it lets us know that when we choose to ignore the voice of the Holy Spirit, our hearts will grow hard until it makes discerning what HE is trying to tell us impossible to hear.)

 Yielded in Selah respectful usual form.

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